We caught this maggot, but how many more terrorists are sneaking in? It's not just (never has been) about jobs....

"Controversial Muslim cleric caught being smuggled into U.S. over Mexico border"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351385/Controversial-Muslim-cleric-caught-smuggled-U-S-Mexico-border.html

We caught him, so what else do you want? The right wing "border security" myth borders on hysteria. Deportations, arrests for illegal entry, all are way up. Thanks for proving it.

actually, I'd like for US agents to take this bastard out in the AZ desert and put a 9mm round in his head and leave him for the buzzards. And, do the same to any known islamist caught sneaking into our country. Not right wing, not left wing, just American.

People like you won't become alarmed until somebody sets off a nuke on a container ship in the Port of Houston: then it'll be too late....

Fortunately, you don't get to formulate US policy. Most of us would have no interest in living in the country that you fantasize about. I'm sure there are other nations with policies more in line with yours; you might want to look into their immigration criteria.

So, does that go for Canada too? We aren't Mexico but are treated the same way at the border.
We have law and order here. No drug inspired hits by rival gangs although there could be some of that going on but to a far less degree. Things are generally done right and on time here unlike our southern crew where that's seldom the case.

You can't be rational with people who are afraid of everyone and everything that they don't understand (which is most people and most things).

You also can't be rational with folks that think that some laws, BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE NOT HUMANE ENOUGH, should be ignored.

Whereas, the PROPER THING TO DO would be to try to get the law changed. Usually, electing the proper people to do what you'd like them to do. Or, running for office, getting in and trying to get the law changed. Or even better yet, understand the reason for the law and get over the fact that sometimes you can't alway get what you want. (I remember a song with that phrase in it... )

But ignoring the law? Tell me how that works for you the next time you're taking your turn at a 4-Way intersection and the guy, coming from your right side doesn't feel like he has to stop just because he feels his destination and time is more important to get to than anyone else, at that moment.

Logic sucks, for some, when it works.
Simple logic is even more frustrating.

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Rational or not, assuming we agree to secure the border, my question would be how? The border is roughly 1,400 miles I think? How many people would it take to secure it? How much infrastructure? If we want to go fancy are we going to use electronic measures? How much do we want to spend on this and are we willing to raise taxes in order to pay for it. I have yet to hear how it will be done and paid for by the folks who want it.

Aside from that, the only people who this wall will stop are the immigrant workers. If a terrorist wants in we still have thousands of miles of unsecured coastal access plus the northern border with Canada. If a terrorist wants in, they will get in with out much difficulty.

When you look at the cost of securing the southern border and deduct that from the cost of the immigrants what are we lest with? I don't know.

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Ask the Russians. They had no problem securing a far bigger one during the cold war.

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Are you suggsting we emulate communism?

Not to mention immigrant workers would probably end up building the wall....

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...and "fighting the cold war" completely destroyed their economy. It's just a matter of priorities, and this shouldn't be one.

Speaking of respecting the law, I'm not the one who said:

"I'd like for US agents to take this bastard out in the AZ desert and put a 9mm round in his head and leave him for the buzzards. And, do the same to any known islamist caught sneaking into our country."

How's that for following the law?

I wonder if the native population of this country ever had a similar thought about immigrants?

The appropriate response should have been to serenade Him with a ten piece marching band and a grant of diplomatic immunity.

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nope, that was me, and I stand by it. at the very most, a quick trial like we gave the German U Boat infiltrators during WWII, then a speedy execution.