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chilcutt · #76 03-20-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

It's against the law to target a nation's leader for assassination. The fig leaf is to say you're going after "command and control systems and personnel."

Thats where the Arabs come in handy.

Skid Row Joe · #77 03-21-2011, 02:20 AM

Unfortunately, from all indications, we have seemingly entered into global war #3.

First came the missiles from warships - check. Next came manned aircraft - check. Next come ground troops.

Where are the confirmations of WMD?

Why do we need Libya's oil?

Why no outcry against the president?

It doesn't make sense.

chilcutt · #78 03-21-2011, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Unfortunately, from all indications, we have seemingly entered into global war #3.

First came the missiles from warships - check. Next came manned aircraft - check. Next come ground troops.

Where are the confirmations of WMD?

Why do we need Libya's oil?

Why no outcry against the president?

It doesn't make sense.

Seemingly.

Botnst · #79 03-21-2011, 07:26 AM

Hopefully it will go as SecDef outlined -- USA turns-over command and control and most operations to the other folks involved after a few more days.

I'm still kind of surprised that this president, who was pretty stridently opposed to the War Powers Act as senator and candidate, invoked it in his first term of office. George Bush's mini-me.

engatwork · #80 03-21-2011, 07:27 AM

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It's against the law to target a nation's leader for assassination. The fig leaf is to say you're going after "command and control systems and personnel."

Against whose law? Are there laws associated with war? Refer to my earlier post.

Botnst · #81 03-21-2011, 07:39 AM

It's our own law, passed by Congress. And yes, there are laws associated with war. The USA is a signatory of the Geneva Conventions. These are given the force of law through the UCMJ, civilian laws, and the chain of command.

engatwork · #82 03-21-2011, 07:45 AM

Thanks for the background Botnst. Wonder how many countries abide by these laws?

chilcutt · #83 03-21-2011, 08:03 AM

One thing I dont understand concerning Col. Gadaffi. Since he is the leader of Libya- why didnt he promote himself to General.

engatwork · #84 03-21-2011, 08:43 AM

It looks like the UK broke the law. Does this mean we have to arrest them? Somebody in the UK has some balls don't they.

foxnews

Kuan · #85 03-21-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt

One thing I dont understand concerning Col. Gadaffi. Since he is the leader of Libya- why didnt he promote himself to General.

Plagiarist.

MS Fowler · #86 03-21-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

It's our own law, passed by Congress. And yes, there are laws associated with war. The USA is a signatory of the Geneva Conventions. These are given the force of law through the UCMJ, civilian laws, and the chain of command.

It is also an Executive Order, originated by ( gasp!) RRR, and signed by all Presidents since with only minor revisions to the wording.

Honus · #87 03-21-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

...I'm still kind of surprised that this president, who was pretty stridently opposed to the War Powers Act as senator and candidate, invoked it in his first term of office. George Bush's mini-me.

I am not convinced that Obama is doing the right thing in Libya, but this situation bears little resemblance to Bush's approach to foreign affairs and military matters.

Mistress · #88 03-21-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Golly. I mean, if the UN, NATO, and the Arab countries want it, who are we to say know? Forget Congress, we have a righteous war to fight!

I thought Bush left office.....

Txjake · #89 03-21-2011, 09:58 AM

Good article in the NYT about this new war....

But there are major problems with this approach to war as well. Because liberal wars depend on constant consensus-building within the (so-called) international community, they tend to be fought by committee, at a glacial pace, and with a caution that shades into tactical incompetence. And because their connection to the national interest is often tangential at best, they’re often fought with one hand behind our back and an eye on the exits, rather than with the full commitment that victory can require.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/opinion/21douthat.html?_r=1

Botnst · #90 03-21-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress

I thought Bush left office.....

When Obama bends over you can see dick cheney's hand up his butt: Following the colon, the puppetmaster is always there!