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sjh · #**121** 08-04-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

I shall assume with a high degree of confidence that you know the history of progressive and conservative movements in this country.

I know the history of progressism very well. Much less about conservatives. I have very little interest or involvement in politics. I am drawn to different means to encourage the changes I seek.

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Originally Posted by MTI

Frankly, is there some virtue in making wealth a criteria for representation?

I wouldn't know. I never said such.

The capacity to function as an adult if one wishes to be treated as an adult.

You tend to be dishonest in the structure of your responses.

You accuse me of what I did not say and then attack it.

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Originally Posted by MTI

With regard to your parable about minorities. Women are a minority in other aspects than merely head count.

The word has a fairly straight-forward meaning. Women are not minorities. Cuban-Americans are but they are not called that because they do not vote democratic.

Your thoughts and language skills are sloppy.

I've already stated that I am well versed in the history of progressism. Your fallacious thinking and crude redefinition of words is consistent with much of their history.

MTI · #**122** 08-04-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

Your thoughts and language skills are sloppy.

I've already stated that I am well versed in the history of progressism. Your fallacious thinking and crude redefinition of words is consistent with much of their history.

Once again, I forgot that you're the smartest person in the room. I will try not to let that happen again.

sjh · #**123** 08-04-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Once again, I forgot that you're the smartest person in the room. I will try not to let that happen again.

Thank you.

Chas H · #**124** 08-04-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor

And I new it was going to happen....people and not just Republicans....are tired of this reckless spending when they have been having to tighten their own belts to make ends meet.

So why all the clamor now? The 2 unneccessary wars and the prescription drug act were done years ago. None of those were funded by revenue at the time and are still not. What new big expensive programs have happened since Obama took office?

MS Fowler · #**125** 08-04-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by retmil46

Lest anyone misunderstand, I was referring to BOTH SIDES of the "political divide".

I was going to say "discussion", but that would have been like calling an ox a bull.

to finish the quote, "He grateful for the honor, but would rather have restored what was previously his."

tonkovich · #**126** 08-04-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Tit-for-tat, muh'man. I responded to the typical Koch Bros canard with the typical Georg Soros canard. We now have a wonderfully matched set of canards. Who's buying?

false equivalency. par for the course for the high school debate team. (oddly - or, not so oddly - karl rove was a champion of his high school debate team. you are following in some great footsteps.

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tonkovich · #**127** 08-04-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

I know the history of progressism very well. Much less about conservatives. I have very little interest or involvement in politics. I am drawn to different means to encourage the changes I seek.

I wouldn't know. I never said such.

The capacity to function as an adult if one wishes to be treated as an adult.

You tend to be dishonest in the structure of your responses.

You accuse me of what I did not say and then attack it.

The word has a fairly straight-forward meaning. Women are not minorities. Cuban-Americans are but they are not called that because they do not vote democratic.

Your thoughts and language skills are sloppy.

I've already stated that I am well versed in the history of progressism. Your fallacious thinking and crude redefinition of words is consistent with much of their history.

help out the "crude redefiners" and tell us what this word means, o great master of the english language. thanks. (perhaps you need to pray for better spelling skills, and not seek to remove the speck from your neighbors eye, before you work on the log in your own?)

Local2ED · #**128** 08-04-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

You can't isolate one factor and expect that to control the economy. ( Well, I suppose you can, but it would lead to erroneous conclusions).
Along with the Bush tax cuts/ hike there is the need for business to have reason to expect consistency in future regulation. Yet, as soon as the President signed the debt ceiling into law he, and all the dems are talking again, about letting the tax cuts expire. You think businesses are going to risk venture capital with that level of uncertainty hanging over them?
Business would like a 3 or 4 year moratorium on tax and fee increases, and a long lead time on changes after that.
Stability is the name of the game for business growth.

10yrs. of the bush era tax cuts wasn't a moratorium?

10yrs of tax cuts, where are the job the republicans promised?
The republicans wouldn't lie would they?

November 2010 mcconnel was so giddy I thought I saw his lips move when he said "Our number one priority is to make President Obama a one term president"

Heck, silly me though job creation would be number one.

You boys sure have the excuses.

Local2ED · #**129** 08-04-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor

Really.....I'd rather have Bushes worst unemployment and deficit numbers than Obamas best ones.

If the Bush presidency was a disaster...then the Obama one is a catastrophe of biblical proportions.

Yep, losing 700k jobs per mounth under bush is a heck of a lot better than creating jobs under President Obama.

retmil46 · #**130** 08-04-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Local2ED

Yep, losing 700k jobs per mounth under bush is a heck of a lot better than creating jobs under President Obama.

You left out "to China" and "in China".

MTI · #**131** 08-04-2011, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

help out the "crude redefiners" and tell us what this word means, o great master of the english language. thanks. (perhaps you need to pray for better spelling skills, and not seek to remove the speck from your neighbors eye, before you work on the log in your own?)

easy, easy there . . . he's a super genius, you know . . .

MS Fowler · #**132** 08-05-2011, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Local2ED

10yrs. of the bush era tax cuts wasn't a moratorium?

10yrs of tax cuts, where are the job the republicans promised?
The republicans wouldn't lie would they?

November 2010 mcconnel was so giddy I thought I saw his lips move when he said "Our number one priority is to make President Obama a one term president"

Heck, silly me though job creation would be number one.

You boys sure have the excuses.

Did you ever hear of 9-11?
Do you think,maybe, it might haved had some impact on the economy?
Do you realize that was one of the principle reasons for the attacks on 9-11?

Local2ED · #**133** 08-05-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Did you ever hear of 9-11?
Do you think,maybe, it might haved had some impact on the economy?
Do you realize that was one of the principle reasons for the attacks on 9-11?

This makes no sense.

I'll ask you again, 10yrs. of tax cuts is not a moratorium for business?
If business is so uncertain after all these years of cuts and not producing jobs it only makes sense to end the cuts and restore certainty, after all, thats what their excuse is, right

boneheaddoctor · #**134** 08-05-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Local2ED

Yep, losing 700k jobs per mounth under bush is a heck of a lot better than creating jobs under President Obama.

Just which dark body orifice did you pull THAT out of...

unemployment under Obama is 9.2% and GROWING. He hasn't created crap....anywhere in the country OUTSIDE of government jobs.

If Obama created all these damn jobs...then why have 13.2 MILLION people that had jobs under Bush....no longer have jobs under Obama. where in the hell ARE all these imaginary jobs Obama created anyway.......CHINA? Because they certainly aren't in the USA.

boneheaddoctor · #**135** 08-05-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

So why all the clamor now? The 2 unneccessary wars and the prescription drug act were done years ago. None of those were funded by revenue at the time and are still not. What new big expensive programs have happened since Obama took office?

Two Unnecessary wars.....really....you actually believe that crap? YOu love the Taliban and Al Qaeda don't you. "We be killin all those po po towlheads..."

You want to hear unnecessary....Libya.....THAT is unnecessary and is costing us HUGE amounts of money every day..