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Old 01-26-2012, 04:35 PM
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:44 PM
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"Smart regulations to prevent irresponsible behavior" - How's the war on drugs working out?

"Order every Federal Agency to eliminate rules that don't make sense"

Establish a Financial Crimes Unit? Another agency?
Well, yeah, unless you want a repeat of the financial crisis. The last president transferred 2400 FBI agents away from white collar crime to counter-terrorism, which would have been OK if we had replaced them, but we didn't. The basic idea is, if you don't want something to be gutted by another administration, turn it into an agency.
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:47 PM
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The Circus is coming to town!

I hear there will be bread.
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Old 01-27-2012, 06:26 AM
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Who is that drive-by poster referring to when he calls someone out of their name? Whats this 'GoatBoy' crap.
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Old 01-27-2012, 06:50 AM
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Who is that drive-by poster referring to when he calls someone out of their name? Whats this 'GoatBoy' crap.
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:17 AM
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Hah!

I read it first as "hairy" goats.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:28 AM
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The only one amongst them that I like continues to be Congressman Paul. I think conservative R's are scared of him though because he speaks the truth. Rick came accross last night better than I had seen him in the past.
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The only one amongst them that I like continues to be Congressman Paul. I think conservative R's are scared of him though because he speaks the truth. ...
I agree with that. I suspect, though, that they are also scared of his complete un-electability. Once general election voters heard his governing philosophy, I think a huge majority would say, "Huh"? Libertarianism is an interesting academic subject. It has nothing to do with running a successful country.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:24 PM
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I agree with that. I suspect, though, that they are also scared of his complete un-electability. Once general election voters heard his governing philosophy, I think a huge majority would say, "Huh"? Libertarianism is an interesting academic subject. It has nothing to do with running a successful country.
WHAT???!

You KIDDING me?

Sound monetary policy not only has EVERYTHING to do with running a successful country, it has everything to do with THIS election!!!!

You guys ought to at LEAST give the guy a listen one day.
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Old 01-27-2012, 06:40 PM
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...The basic idea is, if you don't want something to be gutted by another administration, turn it into an agency.
Thus doth government metastasize.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:39 PM
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He proposed no budget, only blamed the lack of one on others. He took credit for everything that has gone good and blamed others for all that has gone bad. He threw lots of gasoline on the class warfare fire which he started and has been feverishly fanning the flames. He tried to take credit for jobs as if he had fixed the economy and put through the Keystone XL.

Evidently his dream world is even further from reality than I thought. So what else is new?
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WHAT???!

You KIDDING me?

Sound monetary policy not only has EVERYTHING to do with running a successful country, it has everything to do with THIS election!!!!

You guys ought to at LEAST give the guy a listen one day.
You say that as if I have stated some fringe position. AFAIK, my rejection of Paul's governing philosophy is in line with a large majority of Americans. That doesn't mean I'm right, but I don't understand your reaction.

I also don't understand why you think I haven't listened to him. I have listened to him and read about him. His ideas make no sense to me. Of course, what I don't know about monetary policy would fill volumes, but I have yet to see anyone explain why a commodity-based monetary system is such a great idea. So, maybe I've drunk the mainstream economic kool aid, but Paul just hasn't made the case on those issues, IMO.

His unusual views on monetary policy are just the beginning of the problem, though. His historical description of medical care before Medicare and Medicaid is fictional. He says that Medicare and Social Security are unconstitutional and that he would get rid of them if he could. That is f'ing insane. On Social Security, he claims that the "numbers just aren't there" or some such nonsense. That is just not true. He only says that because he is ideologically opposed to Social Security, which is entirely insane. Social Security is an unqualified, unambiguous success. It is one of mankind's greatest accomplishments (I mean that literally). He wants to get rid of it.

In foreign affairs, he's generally correct about our foolish military misadventures, but his isolationist approach is not the America I want to have.

More generally, his minimalist view of the federal government goes too far, IMO. For all its faults, our federal government has done an incredible amount of good for the country. Look, for example, at how much suffering there is during this economic downturn compared to the 1930's. Do you see any soup lines? Shanty towns? Anything of the sort we read about in the history books about the Great Depression? What changed, other than the federal government? I'm not saying that DC hasn't become a cluster you-know-what, but Paul's view is a complete nightmare by comparison. IMHO.

Can you cite any countries who have applied Paul's economic policies? Is there any evidence that his ideas would work?

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I thought things like social security. Our old age pension equivelant up here in Canada were basically untouchable by politicians. The older segment of society is too large a voter block to ignore.

Well as of this week that has changed in Canada. This year they are going to move the pension age from 65 to 67 as the age of implementation point. They now claim otherwise the system is not going to remain affordable in Canada. Or may take too much money from more important areas. I suspect 70 is the real target point they want to approach with time. For the first time political figures various forms of income pension wise and otherwise are going to be critically examined as well.

. This to me may be the start of many changes in Canada. . What has not been done is important. The reality is we are not in the same situation as we were at one time. For the first time in a long time we may currently have a political leader who is going to do what is right. Instead of just borrowing money to cover up.

Things like mandating massive milage increases in all new vehicles sold are required now. Still better than walking and well overdue in my opinion. I do not see this as government intrusion as much as common sense. I almost feel that too large a segment of the general public are trying to live in an alice in wonderland situation as far as the true realities go. There is no longer any doubt the politicians have been for all too long.

Some things do require government intervention to implement for the common good. I personally have no plan of what can be done exactly. Yet attempts to change things to address realities do not seem optional to me. There is some legitamate concern externally that the american economy at this point cannot really revive itself. At least not with the way things are currently being done. Perhaps not even no matter what is done. Yet with the right attitudes and policies it could be at least stabilized.

There is no longer any doubt that the financial segment was largely responsible for todays mess. The same structure is still more or less intact. They will do it again if the opportunity presents itself. You do not construct a house of cards to run a country. There is too much at risk to do so. Yet that is more or less what was done and is still being done.

The endless current accumulating defict habit mentality has to stop as well. It is far from healthy and eventually has to have serious reprecussions on almost all components of society.

Many thing currently are being treated in some form of abstract fashion. When getting down to reality is far more important. The faster the better. The innevatable result of not doing so is a spectre I do not want to see personally.

Things like getting the freight movement of goods back on the railways instead of pounding the highway infastructure to pieces that there are no funds to redo seem to not matter currently. Attempting to live within our means as a country to me is very important as well. The sooner we try to get there the cheaper to do so is and the better off we will be. There are in reality thousands of things that can stand change. Todays economy is too much like quicksand to be taken casually..

Or at least visable proof that it is a sane direction we are headed in. It is better to do so volentarily rather than doing so when screaming and kicking sometime later because there is no choice at all left then. It is your real wealth that is being attacked at the current time after all. There is little doubt in my mind that our real estate holdings in Canada would go into serious decline if things are not changed soon.

I doubt at this time that any leadership is going to evolve that is really concerned about the common good after our current leader leaves. Unless the public become aware that concern over the common good of people is learnt by the population by his example. Attempts to retain the current impossible status quo are far more popular even if unsustainable in reality at present. The politicians that wave this banner appeal to the masses at this time. Personally being sold out has no appeal for me.

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Old 01-28-2012, 06:05 AM
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