Not better numbers. A better poll.

If there was a choice to be made between America & Israel. Which one would you choose?

Might be interesting. Let's make it a poll.

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Poll: Poll: 63 percent want president to back Israel - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com

How funny.
The principle (in this case) is, whether or not to sacrifice live. 50 or 50K does't matter.
The ethical aspect is the grey area where the holder of the principle will establish justification as to whether and how much alteration will be applied to the principle.

Generally speaking, (quantitative) sacrifice of live is not a very good platform to determine the nature of principles.

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Nothing could possibly be more important than life. To suggest that ethical decisions regarding life are less than the greatest importance of all is to presume there is something of greater importance. I'm curious what that might be.

My apologies, thought you were a member of the anything for Israel club. Treaties... do we have any that require us to back another country that is fighting outside of their territorial boundaries? Keeping our word is important, almost as important as not giving it rashly, and so far, that is one of the things Obama has done well.

We need to tread lightly in the middle east, and blindly backing the war mongering and expansionism of Israel is anything but. Moving in conjunction with other countries and by consensus is the only way. Unless we want a target painted on our country by every terrorist that breathes.

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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I guess I'm out of phase....

When was that mandate by the people?

EDIT -
continued reading and saw the polls you posted...
Gallup poll...as La Rondo stated, nothing more than a popularity contest with the Palestinians coming up short.
Quinnipiac poll... poll is to old to really address this current issue, and done by a community college in New England to boot. Sample size - 2118. Hardly a mandate from the people. Also, the poll was again more of a popularity contest, between Palestine and Israel, and had nothing to do with supporting Israel if they wage war against Iran

Protected at all costs - you put that phrase in the poll and watch the numbers go down like a catholic girl at the movies...

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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Great. I appreciate that. 63%? that's not too bad. Again, what matters is the environment where the poll was taken. But fine.

It is again, the wrong question presented to the wrong crowd.

The question should be whether their support would go to America or to Israel, if there was an unquestionable choice to be made.

How do you think the same crowd would have reacted in, let's say, the 1920s, 30s, 40s?

I suppose something happened in the meantime

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Our country and what it stands for is more important than life. At least that seems to be the story they feed to the boys on their way to war.

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif

Poll's up. My vote is cast. I just hope I'm not going to get torn up over it. It will close by Monday 7.29pm.
I am not planning on using the pole numbers subsequently. It's just an honest curiosity, although the outcome should very clear. Hopefully.

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I don't blame you a bit for your curiosity. Maybe it has something to do with the fact, that we are not really in charge of 'life'. Life comes into us and it will leave us. There is little we can do about it.

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Some valid points. You have better polls? Polls that phrase questions as you wished? Put them up and be as objectively critical of them.

Until and unless you guys find polls to support your arguments in any degree, the flawed polls I posted stand as the best available description of American attitudes.

Do you believe it? If so, you have standing with your argument. Otherwise it's just vibrating molecules in a diffuse gas.

Find the poll you want. Post it. Show us your stuff. Be as objectively critical of what you post as you are to what I posted, which are from generally well-regarded pollsters.

So far all you offer is vapor. Whatcha got, big boy?

Bovine excrement. Of course we can do something about life: End it. As previously proposed, ethics change with proportion. Or as Josef argued (in opposition to my postulation) regarding similar arguments .... A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

Nope. No other polls.

But I am not trying validate my position, only trying to repudiate yours...

As for where the actual percentages lie, I imagine your numbers may be closer to the truth than my feelings on the matter, but I am an optimist.
Maybe we see what the next poll shows us.
The tide is beginning to turn, and the American people are getting sick of being involved in every military action.

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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