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The Clk Man · #31 05-12-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by engatwork

When I went to WalMart today I saw many reasons why abortion should continue to be legal

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You was in my neighborhood and didn't stop by.....

Jim B. · #32 05-13-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by E150GT

Capital punishment is murder.

“It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.”

― Voltaire

Carleton Hughes · #33 05-13-2012, 08:09 AM

I am not a woman. Hence any opinion I hold on the matter is invalid.

t walgamuth · #34 05-13-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

Now the taste of alcohol is filling up my bladder
What's the date and time it don't matter
Had a pocket full of phone numbers I was trying to sort
To make a long story short
Ran into this girl named Carla
Knew her from the back seat of my homie's Impala
She said what's up yeah what's the deal
Check the hairdo of course it ain't real
Then I looked down she was fat in the front
I asked how long, well about seven months
Oh how time flies when you're having fun
She said yeah but the damage is done
Where you been, on a little vacation
Oh by the way congratulations
Who's the lucky man? I don't have a clue
Then she said the lucky man is you
I dropped my brew
And everything looked fuzzy
Not a baby by you the neighborhood hussy
She said yeah remember that date
I thought back and tried to calculate
Then I said damn are you sure it's mine
Cause I know you been tossed plenty of times
She said that day no I wasn't whoring
Your azz is mine that's when the sweat started pouring
Cause all I saw was Ice Cube in court
Paying a gang on child support
Then I thought deep about giving up the money
What I need to do is kick the beech in the tummy
Naw cause then I'd really get faded
That's murder one cause it was premeditated
So what I'm a do
I don't have a clue
How many months left damn only two
I'm gettin faded

No cigar, G
Ay yo homey man I'm getting faded

It's crazy cause before I could sleep with her
I had to duck and dodge and try to creep with her
See the booty and the front was all in place
But the girl had the pitbull face
So we ran jumped drove swam crawled hid
Oh lord god forbid
My homies see me at the motel
Cause those fools would love to just go tell
Everybody in the hood that knows your rep
So jump in the back seat and quiet is kept
And hold your big fat butt steady
Cause yo hoe I got the paper bag ready
She started moaning and gobbling like a turkey
I knocked the boots from here to Albuquerque
I dropped her off man and I'm knowing
That I'm a hate myself in the morning
I got drunk to help me forget
Yo another day another hit sheeit
I'm gettin faded

Ay yo you know what time it is

Nine months later she's ready to drop the load
And everybody in the hood already knows
It's supposed to be mine so they laughing at me
You know Ice Cube can't be having that G
I'm thinking to myself why did I bang her
Now I'm in the closet looking for the hanger JD and Jinx and T-Bone won't let up they won't shut up
I'm gettin fed up beech
Cause I know you're tryin to break me
But if I find out your tryin to fake me
I'm a buff that duff for a hoot
Beat ya down and leave a crown or two
That night she went into labor
And the sheeit is getting kinda major
The baby came out damn it was a lifesaver
Looking like my next-door neighbor
She said it was mine that was her best guess
But let's check the results of the blood test
I started smiling yeah cause it read negative
Damn why did I let her live?
After that I should've got the gat
And bust and rushed and illed and peeled the cap
But no I just told the hoe who laid me
Excuse me beech it's a switch
You can't fade me

Naw baby not this way
Yo you ain't playing Ice Cube out like no booger
I don't fall for the okey-doke
And before I fall for the okey-doke
I let the pistol smoke
Now sing it
Yeah baby you can't fade me
Naw unfadable baby

Wow! Those are some rough lyrics. Despicable. He is talking about his own child as if it is an inanimate object.

gatorblue92 · #35 05-13-2012, 09:45 AM

I'm 31 and pro life. I was on the fence until my oldest son was born. I consider myself a liberal on all other social issues but I believe every life is sacred and has value.

GTStinger · #36 05-13-2012, 10:41 AM

My 38 year old thought process.
Consensus view is that killing a newborn is wrong. The child has a right to live.
Most people are opposed to late-term abortion because of the inconsistency that an unborn delivered at 30 weeks has rights but an unborn aborted a 31 weeks doesn't have rights.
Therefore, the majority view is that at some point in the womb a transition is made from fetus to child. Where is that point? There are cases of successful deliveries as early as 23 weeks. Choosing a point in the pregnancy where life begins is hubris. If society picks a point too late, then it is guilty of allowing the death of all children aborted between the selected date and the actual moment the unborn becomes a person.
Once the egg is fertilized, attaches and begins to grow, the natural downhill path is delivery of a person with rights. That is why I believe society should define life at the earliest possible date.

As to my personal experience. I have a wonderful 4 yr old daughter that was delivered at 32 weeks (3lbs. 2oz). I also had twin boys stillborn at 28 weeks when a blood vessel in the placenta suddenly connected artery to vein. There was a good chance they could have survived if delivered a couple days earlier. After holding those perfectly formed babies in my arms, I am certain they were children not fetuses.

Jim B. · #37 05-13-2012, 11:05 AM

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kerry · #38 05-13-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorblue92

I'm 31 and pro life. I was on the fence until my oldest son was born. I consider myself a liberal on all other social issues but I believe every life is sacred and has value.

Could you elaborate on the line of reasoning that made you change your mind? Did you not want your son and then when he was born you wanted him and that caused you to change your mind? Would your mind not have been changed if he had misscaried at 3 weeks?

The Clk Man · #39 05-13-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorblue92

I'm 31 and pro life. I was on the fence until my oldest son was born. I consider myself a liberal on all other social issues but I believe every life is sacred and has value.

I applaud you good Sir.

The Clk Man · #40 05-13-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GTStinger

My 38 year old thought process.
Consensus view is that killing a newborn is wrong. The child has a right to live.
Most people are opposed to late-term abortion because of the inconsistency that an unborn delivered at 30 weeks has rights but an unborn aborted a 31 weeks doesn't have rights.
Therefore, the majority view is that at some point in the womb a transition is made from fetus to child. Where is that point? There are cases of successful deliveries as early as 23 weeks. Choosing a point in the pregnancy where life begins is hubris. If society picks a point too late, then it is guilty of allowing the death of all children aborted between the selected date and the actual moment the unborn becomes a person.
Once the egg is fertilized, attaches and begins to grow, the natural downhill path is delivery of a person with rights. That is why I believe society should define life at the earliest possible date.

As to my personal experience. I have a wonderful 4 yr old daughter that was delivered at 32 weeks (3lbs. 2oz). I also had twin boys stillborn at 28 weeks when a blood vessel in the placenta suddenly connected artery to vein. There was a good chance they could have survived if delivered a couple days earlier. After holding those perfectly formed babies in my arms, I am certain they were children not fetuses.

Well stated Sir. And I am sorry for you're loss.

jplinville · #41 05-13-2012, 03:14 PM

Make sure to thank your moms for giving birth to you.

Happy Mother's Day everyone!!!

anthonyb · #42 05-14-2012, 01:12 AM

33 years old and pro-choice.

Medically there is a big difference in survival right around 25 weeks, mostly related to the fact that fetal lungs don't work very well until that point. Premies have a rough go of things in general, but mortality goes way up before 25 weeks. I think if you want to draw a line from a biological point of view, you could probably start there.

Societally, given the amount of resources it takes to raise a child from birth to 18 years, I think it's pretty irrational to mandate (as a society) that all pregnant women deliver their unborn children unless we are also willing to commit (as a society) to pay the costs of raising those children until they are adults. Ironically, over the last 10 years we have moved more and more AWAY from that idea as states continue to cut funding for education, after school programs, children's health care and basic access to food programs.

davidmash · #43 05-14-2012, 01:20 AM

So far I am quite surprised how this poll turned out. Kerry seems to predict it far better than the article I read.

I did not think there were as many supporters of a womans right to choose on this site as there are and I am very surprised at the age results. I wrongly assumed that younger folks would be in favor of a womans right to choose and that the older folks would be against it.

Botnst · #44 05-14-2012, 08:43 AM

One conclusion we could reach is that this website is not a normally distributed random sample of the voting population.

Carleton Hughes · #45 05-14-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

So far I am quite surprised how this poll turned out. Kerry seems to predict it far better than the article I read.

I did not think there were as many supporters of a womans right to choose on this site as there are and I am very surprised at the age results. I wrongly assumed that younger folks would be in favor of a womans right to choose and that the older folks would be against it.

That's because most of us are no longer young enough to know everything.

View Poll Results: Is age a factor in your stance on abortion
20-30 yrs Pro Choice	4	7.41%
30-40 yrs Pro Choice	9	16.67%
40-50 yrs Pro Choice	6	11.11%
50-60 yrs Pro Choice	13	24.07%
60+ yrs Pro Choice	8	14.81%
20-30 yrs Pro Life	4	7.41%
30-40 yrs Pro Life	3	5.56%
40-50 yrs Pro Life	3	5.56%
50-60 yrs Pro Life	3	5.56%
60+ yrs Pro Life	1	1.85%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll