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Old 06-12-2012, 12:02 PM
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Well there was just no demand for lemonade in Kenya so a lemonade stand just didn't make business sense.

Remind us again how the economy did when the great oil businessman George W. Bush was in power. How did this great business man leave the economy after eight years in charge?
Not to mention a baseball franchise, or something. Now there's some business chops if ever I've heard of them.

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:46 PM
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I think we should all base our opinions of candidates based on their blunders when publicly speaking.
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I think we should all base our opinions of candidates based on their blunders when publicly speaking.
Exactly. They should be held to every single word they ever say. It's only fair that they should be held to a standard of 100% perfection at all times. After all, that's the standard I have always met.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:09 PM
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I think we should all base our opinions of candidates based on their blunders when publicly speaking.
It would be a tight race betwen Quayle and Biden.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:11 PM
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Exactly. They should be held to every single word they ever say. It's only fair that they should be held to a standard of 100% perfection at all times. After all, that's the standard I have always met.


Hmmm.... 100% perfection. No, that's asking too much even for the stinky politicians. I WOULD, however, expect them to come somewhere CLOSE with their campaign promises, however. Saying he would cut the deficit in half? Nowhere close on that one!
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:26 PM
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It would be a tight race betwen Quayle and Biden.
I noticed that Biden recently gave credit to "Will and Grace" for promoting tolerance of gay people. It reminded me of when Quayle blamed "Murphy Brown" for not promoting family values. Quayle was pummeled mercilessly for that one, but I didn't hear much criticism of Biden's "Will and Grace" comment. I see two possible explanations:

Liberal bias: Claims of liberal bias in the media are mostly a bunch of baloney, but that might be what's going on here.

People respect Biden: Quayle was a jackass from the get-go. Biden has foot-in-mouth disease, but is generally seen as a decent and competent guy. He has earned some benefit of the doubt which Quayle doesn't deserve.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:31 PM
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I think the difference in reaction is much simpler . . . Quayle's comment about Murphy Brown was to denigrate and was disconnected from the national view of support for single parents, while the Will & Grace comment by Biden was reflective of the growing support for same sex marriage.

Like many other social conservatives, Quayle failed to realize that the country had moved on the issue and was friing an early shot on the so called "war against women."
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B.O. is indeed ignorant regarding capitalism, but not for any of the above made up reasons.

B.O. has never so much as run a Lemonade stand on his front lawn as a kid. He has NO executive experience whatsoever. If he would release his information we could even see where his college money came from and for sure it was NOT from him EARNING it, which is what capitalism is about. Taking handouts does NOT teach you about capitalism.

BTW, I think I know why he THINKS that "The Private Sector is doing fine." It's because honeywell convinced him that everyone was buying a THINGAMAJIG for their furnace.

WATCH: Obama Tells An Audience That Buying A 'Thingamajig' For Your Furnace Will Help The Economy - Business Insider

I think I could reword this to represent what you are actually saying....

"Blah, blah, blah, blah...I hate Barack Obama, blah, blah, blah, blah..."


And the furnace thing again? Seriously Larry, when do you think you're supposed to repair your furnace? Winter???
Bet you close the barn door after the cows get out too....
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Larry, the two presidetns with the most business experience were Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush. Hmm, what does that say about business experience?

George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton . . . no real private sector credentials.

Frankly, your "lemonade stand" argument isn't as refreshing as you may think.

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I think the difference in reaction is much simpler . . . Quayle's comment about Murphy Brown was to denigrate and was disconnected from the national view of support for single parents, while the Will & Grace comment by Biden was reflective of the growing support for same sex marriage.

Like many other social conservatives, Quayle failed to realize that the country had moved on the issue and was friing an early shot on the so called "war against women."
You are probably right, but I stick by my Quayle-as-jackass theory. I have a friend who interned in the Senate when Quayle was still Senator Quayle. Apparently there are two elevators - one for senators and one for everyone else. The senator's elevator had a full-time elevator operator. One day the senators' elevator was the only one in operation so someone told my friend to use it. The elevator stopped at a floor and Quayle got on. He looked down his nose at the young intern and said, "You know this elevator is only for members," and then got off on the next floor. My friend said he was totally mortified. After Quayle got off, the elevator operator said, "Don't worry about it. That guy's a jackass."

That's classic Quayle - clueless and arrogant.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:53 PM
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I'm no Bush fan either, ...
Why not? He embodies your political ideologies and he's a 'successful' private businessman - what's not to like?
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Why not? He embodies your political ideologies and he's a 'successful' private businessman - what's not to like?

HMmmmmm..... let's see......

He raised entitlement spending, not my ideology
He raised national debt, not my ideology
He passed Tarp, not my ideology

So how is it that he and I have the same ideology? Are you a mind reader or something? If you are, you need a tune up.
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HMmmmmm..... let's see......

He raised entitlement spending, not my ideology
He raised national debt, not my ideology
He passed Tarp, not my ideology

So how is it that he and I have the same ideology? Are you a mind reader or something? If you are, you need a tune up.
So you're saying a business man president that was successful in the private sector raised entitlement spending, raised the debt and supported TARP? Doesn't this throw a wrench in the idea that a lot of private business experience is a prerequisite for a successful presidency?
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Larry, the two presidetns with the most business experience were Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush. Hmm, what does that say about business experience?

George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, Dwight Eisenhower and George H W Bush . . . no real private sector credentials.

Frankly, your "lemonade stand" argument isn't as refreshing as you may think.
How about the business experience from running a family farm/ plantation? You ignore most of the early Presidents by your strict definition.
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How about the business experience from running a family farm/ plantation? You ignore most of the early Presidents by your strict definition.
Then you would also include the most recent example, President Carter?

I have to offer a correction, President George H.W. Bush did have a substantial background in the petroleum business in Texas.

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