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Old 07-28-2012, 05:03 PM
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There you again muddling up all these good little "B.O. Can do no wrong" minds with facts. Be warned, they will not only hate you for it, but they won't admit their accuracy no matter what.
Wrong again. I will go out on the limb and say that no one here hates any of our forum mates. We disagree, we argue, but to actually hate someone takes (I hope) a little more than some posts on an internet forum.

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Old 07-28-2012, 05:07 PM
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Too Funny -- And, I bet you must have drank the cool aid.

I did a little digging as you would like to call it, and guess what.

There is ZERO doubt he went by the name of Barry Soetoro for much of his young life. He was enrolled in school by that name, and used it for a period thereafter. There is no doubt about that. I find it odd that he never disclosed that and he did in fact seal most of the records which would "uncover" the so-called facts as you and others like to put them. So, there is where the trail ends -- it is where B.S. called it quits and sealed the records. Nice Job.
You were given info to assist you in learning more about this "issue".

Quid pro quo...

Share what you have learned. I would be interested in some information that supports the conclusions which you have come to.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:22 PM
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Well, it is an honest question when I started this post and I never heard of this issue until the day I started this post as well. What did I learn ?

B.O. went by and used the name B.S. He (his parents) may have legally changed his name to B.S. I could not find any legal proceeding to change his name back if this occurred. This was not in the lame stream media, or maybe I was asleep at the switch. This topic can be charged with controversy and many folks do get fired up over it. I am not sure why, however. I learned that many folks have either assumed or have conjecture that he used this name a lot more than when he was a child, but no one really knows one way or another. There are posts out there which could be hoaxes. I learned that many folks directed me to the "hoaxes", but I do not think they simply said this was in fact B.O.'s name. Instead, the waters were muddied with the argued hoaxes and the so-called leads and tips. Why direct someone to an alleged hoax versus the "facts" is beyond me. And yes, we as Americans have been shut out from a lot of records that most political figures are "forced" to cough up -- except B.S. I wonder why.
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:12 PM
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Anagram of "Barry Soetoro"- is "Sober Oratory."

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Old 07-28-2012, 07:26 PM
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I'm guessing there is someone here who doesn't prefer ANY politicians....
Well there are some I support.
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These sealed records of which you posted... Do you realize that one of the items was Obama's client list when he was an active attorney?? Can you provide any precedent for requesting such private and privileged information?? How would you feel if someone representing you in a confidential manner disclosed such information??
If a person is running for public office then those they do business with is vital issue that involves public trust. I see no difference in a client list from an attorney and a building contractor. If you want the office the voting public should know/understand who you do business with. If you think politicians should be able to hide much of the information which gives the public some knowledge of the previous people s/he associates with and the work they did then you appear to side with politicians which wish to have secrets.
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If I were a politician (other than hoping that one of y'all here would shoot me first), I would block access to every single bit of personal records/information that I felt I could not effectively destroy... But that's just me...
Then I certainly would not vote for you just for that reason alone.
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Hey... where's W's service records??
IDK- is the revelation of those important to you? Those that approved of hiding those records have no ground to stand on asking for BHO/BS's. Do you believe I or anyone and everyone asking for some of BHO/BS's records are one of those?
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:37 PM
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....... where's W's service records??
Has Bush not released any records? (Hint: George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/bush/articles/2004/02/14/bush_releases_his_military_records/)

Has Obama not released any of his records?
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:14 PM
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Anagram of "Barry Soetoro"- is "Sober Oratory."

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Old 07-29-2012, 08:32 AM
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Strangely quiet BHO supporters after a reasonable theory about all politicians and damaging pasts which they wish to hide is put forth.

It was so much easier when you could just call them a birther; then laugh and walk away with one's nose in the air.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:23 AM
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Well, it is an honest question when I started this post and I never heard of this issue until the day I started this post as well. What did I learn ?

B.O. went by and used the name B.S. He (his parents) may have legally changed his name to B.S. I could not find any legal proceeding to change his name back if this occurred. This was not in the lame stream media, or maybe I was asleep at the switch. This topic can be charged with controversy and many folks do get fired up over it. I am not sure why, however. I learned that many folks have either assumed or have conjecture that he used this name a lot more than when he was a child, but no one really knows one way or another. There are posts out there which could be hoaxes. I learned that many folks directed me to the "hoaxes", but I do not think they simply said this was in fact B.O.'s name. Instead, the waters were muddied with the argued hoaxes and the so-called leads and tips. Why direct someone to an alleged hoax versus the "facts" is beyond me. And yes, we as Americans have been shut out from a lot of records that most political figures are "forced" to cough up -- except B.S. I wonder why.

One man's hoax is another's fact... apparently

Still have not seen anything posted besides hearsay.

If you have facts, then post them.

"may have", "cannot find", "assumed", "conjecture"... these are all I'm seeing here.

As for the supposed sealed records, you (and others) postulate that there is a grand plan to keep Obama's records private, do you have quantifiable comparative information that shows this??
Show me where other president's records were available and Obama's are not.

When one makes an assertion, it is customary to have supporting evidence, so, let's see it.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:28 AM
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Strangely quiet BHO supporters after a reasonable theory about all politicians and damaging pasts which they wish to hide is put forth.

It was so much easier when you could just call them a birther; then laugh and walk away with one's nose in the air.


When did this happen??

Please see above post, the request is genuine. Please show me where there is a significant difference in available records from Obama to Bush, or Romney, or any other candidate/previous president.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:41 AM
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One man's hoax is another's fact... apparently

Still have not seen anything posted besides hearsay.

If you have facts, then post them.

"may have", "cannot find", "assumed", "conjecture"... these are all I'm seeing here.

As for the supposed sealed records, you (and others) postulate that there is a grand plan to keep Obama's records private, do you have quantifiable comparative information that shows this??
Show me where other president's records were available and Obama's are not.

When one makes an assertion, it is customary to have supporting evidence, so, let's see it.
I think it's the other way around- with a politician who changes his name and refuses to allow the voting public information about themselves you have to ask : why? If you do not ask why then you implicitly trust the politician; something we as a people should not do given politicians past actions here in the US and throughout history.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:48 AM
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When did this happen??

Please see above post, the request is genuine. Please show me where there is a significant difference in available records from Obama to Bush, or Romney, or any other candidate/previous president.
It never happened to you because of your blind faith in BHO. There is little difference- they are all politicians and when asked about information which reveals about what they've done in the past there is a good chance they will hide it if it's damaging. If you wish to ask GWB or Romney things about their past get to it! They've certainly tried to hide stuff.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:49 AM
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I think it's the other way around- with a politician who changes his name and refuses to allow the voting public information about themselves you have to ask : why? If you do not ask why then you implicitly trust the politician; something we as a people should not do given politicians past actions here in the US and throughout history.
You talking about being called Barack instead of Barry?? That is indicative of someone maturing and leaving behind a no longer representative nickname. I know an Andrew, a Matthew, a Michael and probably several others, who no longer go by Andy, Matt, or Mikey. Non issue.

If you are referring to a change of last name, then you will need to provide some proof that it actually happened.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:57 AM
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One man's hoax is another's fact... apparently

Still have not seen anything posted besides hearsay.

If you have facts, then post them.

"may have", "cannot find", "assumed", "conjecture"... these are all I'm seeing here.

As for the supposed sealed records, you (and others) postulate that there is a grand plan to keep Obama's records private, do you have quantifiable comparative information that shows this??
Show me where other president's records were available and Obama's are not.

When one makes an assertion, it is customary to have supporting evidence, so, let's see it.
Simple question then and please answer if you dare:

Do you deny that B.O. was named, and went by the name Barry Soetoro ?

If you admit that B.O. was named, and went by the name Barry Soetore, then there is no "hoax" as you put it. This is a fact.
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You talking about being called Barack instead of Barry?? That is indicative of someone maturing and leaving behind a no longer representative nickname. I know an Andrew, a Matthew, a Michael and probably several others, who no longer go by Andy, Matt, or Mikey. Non issue.

If you are referring to a change of last name, then you will need to provide some proof that it actually happened.
Like you admitting he went by Barry Soetoro here?
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I don't think anyone is denying that he was referred to by that name during his younger years, but rather the relevance and significance (or lack thereof) of this information.
Or are you saying he just went by Barry? Is it your contention that BHO never used the name Barry Soetoro?

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