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Old 07-27-2012, 06:22 PM
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HEllo I am not new I was on here last year the 25th of July 2011. thanks for being so welcoming.

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Old 07-28-2012, 12:28 AM
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The original posting was requesting info on this subject. Info has been provided.

And yet somehow this whole 'truth' thing is some sort of agenda?

If you are scared of the answer they why would you ask the question? Is living in ignorance a better way to go through life than to discover you have been wrong?

Falling for an April Fools joke is reason enough build your life around a lie?

What an odd way to exist.

Exactly. Question asked and answered.

And yet our greazzy and persecuted friend has yet to actually follow any of the leads provided...

If there were true desire to know the answer, a reasonable person might imagine that one would spend a little time reading up on the subject... especially with the gratuitous amount of hints which were dropped...

TBO has all but begged for the OP to share what he has learned from from his recent query about "WHO IS BARRY SOETORO"... all in vain so far. Rather, we have been entertained by a persecution complex which is almost unrivaled in these parts. Well Done! That's how one answers well thought out, carefully worded and reasonable responses to one's question!

In the Olympic spirit, I score this thread -
Simplicity - 9.2
Opacity - 9.5
Provocativity - 9.7
Intent - 9.4

Excellent scores.

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Old 07-28-2012, 10:25 AM
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Barry S as a person is the same person as Barack Obama. It appears he used both monikers during his lifetime. How far that name went while this person lived in the USA cannot be determined as Barack Obama refuses to release much of his life's history. Of course he could be just the kind of person that does not wish to reveal his life to people; but then he wrote a book about his life- oh wait- two of them. So he does want other people to know him and know about him. So why the secrecy of so many sealed records? On the face of it this sealing of records smells awfully fishy; especially from someone who championed transparency and openness as a candidate. I have not checked if every single one of these on the pic are snoped or not btw.


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Old 07-28-2012, 10:53 AM
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Exactly. Question asked and answered.

And yet our greazzy and persecuted friend has yet to actually follow any of the leads provided...

If there were true desire to know the answer, a reasonable person might imagine that one would spend a little time reading up on the subject... especially with the gratuitous amount of hints which were dropped...

TBO has all but begged for the OP to share what he has learned from from his recent query about "WHO IS BARRY SOETORO"... all in vain so far. Rather, we have been entertained by a persecution complex which is almost unrivaled in these parts. Well Done! That's how one answers well thought out, carefully worded and reasonable responses to one's question!

In the Olympic spirit, I score this thread -
Simplicity - 9.2
Opacity - 9.5
Provocativity - 9.7
Intent - 9.4

Excellent scores.

Go USA
Too Funny -- And, I bet you must have drank the cool aid.

I did a little digging as you would like to call it, and guess what.

There is ZERO doubt he went by the name of Barry Soetoro for much of his young life. He was enrolled in school by that name, and used it for a period thereafter. There is no doubt about that. I find it odd that he never disclosed that and he did in fact seal most of the records which would "uncover" the so-called facts as you and others like to put them. So, there is where the trail ends -- it is where B.S. called it quits and sealed the records. Nice Job.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:02 PM
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OK, So, the question posed by my post"

Who is Barry Soetoro ?

The answer is B.O. Does anyone who wrote such fancy, negative commentary disagree or otherwise dispute this ? If not, then you must admit that B.O. is B.S. Period. I wonder why this post received so much attention in an effort to dispute or otherwise refute that B.O. went by B.S. Why not embrace and agree with what happened ?

Then, to those who claim that the "birthers", right winger conspiracy loons, and those on the fence out there made more out of this than necessary, I wonder why there is so much secrecy, "sealed records", and such an extensive effort to simply bury this information.

Can anyone really claim, and be honest, that there is more information disclosed than hidden and sealed ? Nope -- there is much more hidden than revealed and that is the real issue at hand.

So, after digging as requested, I have come to the conclusion that B.O. went by B.S. for part of his life. As to the extent by which he used this name, no one knows the full extent because he hid the facts and information. And, there are legions of individuals, some on this forum, who will attack and somewhat personally attack those who pose the simple question, "Who is Barry Soetoro?" And yes, these are facts because I can witness and see it here unfold before me, so it cannot be hearsay as one put it.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:15 PM
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OK, So, the question posed by my post"

Who is Barry Soetoro ?

The answer is B.O. Does anyone who wrote such fancy, negative commentary disagree or otherwise dispute this ? If not, then you must admit that B.O. is B.S. Period. I wonder why this post received so much attention in an effort to dispute or otherwise refute that B.O. went by B.S. Why not embrace and agree with what happened ?

Then, to those who claim that the "birthers", right winger conspiracy loons, and those on the fence out there made more out of this than necessary, I wonder why there is so much secrecy, "sealed records", and such an extensive effort to simply bury this information.

Can anyone really claim, and be honest, that there is more information disclosed than hidden and sealed ? Nope -- there is much more hidden than revealed and that is the real issue at hand.

So, after digging as requested, I have come to the conclusion that B.O. went by B.S. for part of his life. As to the extent by which he used this name, no one knows the full extent because he hid the facts and information. And, there are legions of individuals, some on this forum, who will attack and somewhat personally attack those who pose the simple question, "Who is Barry Soetoro?" And yes, these are facts because I can witness and see it here unfold before me, so it cannot be hearsay as one put it.
I don't think anyone is denying that he was referred to by that name during his younger years, but rather the relevance and significance (or lack thereof) of this information.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:36 PM
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I don't think anyone is denying that he was referred to by that name during his younger years, but rather the relevance and significance (or lack thereof) of this information.
Therein lies the issue- how can one verify the significance of the information without access to the information itself? So the next question is why can you not access the information? BHO has restricted access to information which most individuals have no qualms providing and those seeking public office are nearly universally asked to disclose. Why does/did BHO take a very active role in the restriction of so much information? Typically individuals have a wide range of reason to not disclose personal information- but perhaps the most common reason is that the revelation of such information is/could be personally damaging. History shows that politicians would love to hide all/any information which is damaging- and they do in very very high percentages try to hide such. That BHO is doing this hiding for that reason is clearly one of the top choices.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:56 PM
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Barry S as a person is the same person as Barack Obama. It appears he used both monikers during his lifetime. How far that name went while this person lived in the USA cannot be determined as Barack Obama refuses to release much of his life's history. Of course he could be just the kind of person that does not wish to reveal his life to people; but then he wrote a book about his life- oh wait- two of them. So he does want other people to know him and know about him. So why the secrecy of so many sealed records? On the face of it this sealing of records smells awfully fishy; especially from someone who championed transparency and openness as a candidate. I have not checked if every single one of these on the pic are snoped or not btw.



There you again muddling up all these good little "B.O. Can do no wrong" minds with facts. Be warned, they will not only hate you for it, but they won't admit their accuracy no matter what.
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:03 PM
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That, I believe, is the other results or conclusions I draw from this.

After "discovering" and establishing to 100% certainity that B.O. is B.S., the trail does in fact go cold and it is cold because B.S. or B.O. want it that way. Those who think otherwise, beware and be warned -- the attack will come from the liberal mind !
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:40 PM
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There you again muddling up all these good little "B.O. Can do no wrong" minds with facts. Be warned, they will not only hate you for it, but they won't admit their accuracy no matter what.
Uh, you do understand that ALL of the items listed in this flyer are protected from being released by law?

That access to a few of these items is all someone needs to do a little Identity Theft?

These items are not 'Sealed', they are protected by law from being released to anyone but the original person. There is quite a difference, but Right Wingers hope you are to stupid to know the difference.

But, and this is the real crux of the matter, Right Wingers have no respect for the privacy of others and wish that they could pry into the affairs of anyone they suspect of not being a Right Winger.

Right?

No? Then what is the big deal about proving that an April Fools joke is not an April Fools joke?

Are you just to embarrassed to admit you fell for it?
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:50 PM
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Too Funny -- And, I bet you must have drank the cool aid.

I did a little digging as you would like to call it, and guess what.

There is ZERO doubt he went by the name of Barry Soetoro for much of his young life. He was enrolled in school by that name, and used it for a period thereafter. There is no doubt about that. I find it odd that he never disclosed that and he did in fact seal most of the records which would "uncover" the so-called facts as you and others like to put them. So, there is where the trail ends -- it is where B.S. called it quits and sealed the records. Nice Job.
You asked for information and you received it. I guess you never thought that would ever take place.

It appears that you only bought the subject up so you could argue that everyone else but you is wrong on the subject and that anyone who disagrees with you is not facing the obvious truth unleashed in this April Fools joke.

Well, I admit it: You sucked me in. I thought you were making an honest request for info, but you really got the better or me on this one. Oh why oh why are Right Wingers just so smart?

So..... Any other subjects you have 'questions' on? Perhaps you are wondering about Jimmy Carter's Cocaine smuggling ring, Clinton's plan to give the Southwest back to Mexico, or Rick Perry's plan to turn over the Trans-Texas Highway to a Spanish company for operation?

Ooooppppssss! That last one is true. It is something Perry doesn't seem to want to talk about anymore. That's probably because it blew up in his face and cost the taxpayers of Texas a few hundred million dollars for nothing.
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:42 PM
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Uh, you do understand that ALL of the items listed in this flyer are protected from being released by law?
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These items are not 'Sealed', they are protected by law from being released to anyone but the original person. There is quite a difference, but Right Wingers hope you are to stupid to know the difference.

But, and this is the real crux of the matter, Right Wingers have no respect for the privacy of others and wish that they could pry into the affairs of anyone they suspect of not being a Right Winger.

Right?

No? Then what is the big deal about proving that an April Fools joke is not an April Fools joke?

Are you just to embarrassed to admit you fell for it?
The records are not sealed to everyone- they are sealed from those whom BHO/BS does not allow to see. There is a difference- but we've gone beyond that already so let's not backtrack. Why is/was BHO/BS restricting the access to a great part of his past? Given that he is a politician there is great likelihood the reason he is restricting access is that he would be brought down or damaged by the information. It's certainly one of the top reasons why politicians (and humans in general) will not release records- effectively sealing them. It's not privy to one party or another. Understanding that politicians will hide embarrassing information on both (or all) sides of the aisle and then setting your own political views aside the issue becomes sticky and a detriment to BHO as a person and as a candidate.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:26 PM
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Barry S as a person is the same person as Barack Obama. It appears he used both monikers during his lifetime. How far that name went while this person lived in the USA cannot be determined as Barack Obama refuses to release much of his life's history. Of course he could be just the kind of person that does not wish to reveal his life to people; but then he wrote a book about his life- oh wait- two of them. So he does want other people to know him and know about him. So why the secrecy of so many sealed records? On the face of it this sealing of records smells awfully fishy; especially from someone who championed transparency and openness as a candidate. I have not checked if every single one of these on the pic are snoped or not btw.
Perhaps we could trade a candidate's sealed records like baseball cards - I'll give you Obama's Colombia transcripts for Romney's 1999 - 2009 tax returns...
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:57 PM
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Perhaps we could trade a candidate's sealed records like baseball cards - I'll give you Obama's Colombia transcripts for Romney's 1999 - 2009 tax returns...
I prefer my politicians to be open and forthcoming and without the obvious hiding of material which normally would not be hidden. Trivializing the issue does not endear whatever argument you've brought or will bring to the conversation. It also shows you wish to disregard the previous argument -why?
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:58 PM
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I prefer my politicians to be open and forthcoming and without the obvious hiding of material which normally would not be hidden. Trivializing the issue does not endear whatever argument you've brought or will bring to the conversation. It also shows you wish to disregard the previous argument -why?
I'm guessing there is someone here who doesn't prefer ANY politicians....


These sealed records of which you posted... Do you realize that one of the items was Obama's client list when he was an active attorney?? Can you provide any precedent for requesting such private and privileged information?? How would you feel if someone representing you in a confidential manner disclosed such information??

If I were a politician (other than hoping that one of y'all here would shoot me first), I would block access to every single bit of personal records/information that I felt I could not effectively destroy... But that's just me...

Hey... where's W's service records??

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