Excellent.

Exactly on point.

You need to go back to that school and DEMAND your money back!

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Ground Loop, a man as wise as you should open his own University. You could help link make up for his misspent youth!

Suggested course offerings for Prof. Ground Loop:
Communications -204 (How to type like a TEEN-AGED girl!!!!!!!)
Fourth Grade Math
Circular Logic 101
Advanced Circular Logic
The Devolution of Civil Discourse
Child Psychology (lab)
Abnormal Psychology (lab)

Hire a few of your buddies to help round out the course offerings and you'll be in business!

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Thank you for agreeing that you are speculating, albeit in a roundabout way. If Mr. Obama makes it to a 2nd term, we shall find out if his spending habits change. Given the circumstances of our time, a lot of spending is typical of what the .gov does, and in the circumstances it is generally a good thing.

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I note that you attempt to predict the future with a firm conviction that Willard will behave in similar fashion to his Republican predecessors. While this may certainly be true, there is a better chance that Willard is more conservative than Obama.

Mr. Romney will do as his forbearers have done. History has shown that being a conservative president is not a very good thing. Did you know that during the period of roughly 1860 until 1932 there were only 2 Democratic presidents? During this period, following are widely accepted as recessions:

1860
1865
1869
1783
1882
1887
1890
1893
1896
1899
1902
1907
1910
1913
1918
1920
1923
1926
1929
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

72 years, a huge shaping on our government and country as aggressive thieving imperialists, and 17 recessions including the Great Depression. That’s the recent past legacy of the GOP. The current legacy is exemplified under 8 years of GW Bush, where we had 2 recessions, including the biggest one ever. IMO, the GOP is due for about a 50 year span where they can wander in what remains of the woods. Their incompetence at government management has created the biggest part of the problems we face. It’s a historical fact. If you look at more recent times, you'll find a continuation of that pattern. Nothing ever changes for these thugs.

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In your case, you predict the future based upon the behavior of other men. I predict the future based upon the behavior of the same man. Who has the better odds in their prediction?

Neither, actually. Predictions are nebulous that way. Wanna bet on how many times out of 100 that a quarter will land heads up? Select any number of quarters you want. I bet that no matter what you predict, unless you use weighted quarters, you’ll be wrong.

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You point out weakness in the economy in various segments. All true. However, my statement was presented to you for a simple conclusion. This President cannot use the excuse of a recession to continue to spend money that he does not have.

Simple conclusions come from simple minds. Ask Mr. Bible if you want a lap-dog response.

I understand you don’t like it but clearly Mr. Obama can use the excuse. Almost every president in the last 80 years has fabricated reason after reason to spend vast sums. That’s how the public debt got to where it is. And again, this occurred under mostly Republican presidents. The key exception to this was Roosevelt, but he was handed the Great Depression by the 2 Republican presidents that fuc*ed the country before the Ds got in office. Again, historical fact.

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The recession is definitely over by any reasonable definition, and, although revenues might not be quite what the government would prefer, they have an obligation to live within those revenues. Obama shows absolutely no inclination to do this and I believe you're disingenuous for using the weak economy to bolster his position.

We will have to disagree on this. Or revert to insults. Your choice.

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I do agree. However, I am quite certain that another recession and/or depression will be created…

See above. Recessions have become inevitable; historically, they are mostly due to right wing politics. In fact, historically, the country is nearly always heading towards or escaping from recessions. Thank you GOP.

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and the Chinese beginning to bail will be a catastrophe. The country as a whole is staring down at an oncoming train and nobody wants to believe the train will actually arrive

While I understand the concern, there is not a single fact stated. This is pure fear talking. Rationalized fear at that...

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Of course you do. You simply refuse to accept it. You stand there and look at the train heading right for you.

I can’t read minds. If you wish to make a point, kindly put it in words. BTW, the use of weak metaphors and sloppy allegories are tools of minds with considerably less capability than yours.

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Controlling (eliminating??) the deficit is the most important thing that Willard can do and there is a chance that he will do it.

I agree there is a chance, about as much as any of the previous Republican presidents. Who was the last Republican president that reduced the public debt? Also, FWIW there is no way the public debt can be eliminated in less than about 30 to 50 years. So in that regard, there is no way, even in a plausable theory, that Mr. Romney can eliminate the public debt. ...except perhaps by Executive order, where he outlaws it.

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Your position relies on the history of the GOP which is clearly a legacy of spending.

It is a historical fact.

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Willard will not necessarily follow that path. He has chosen a radical and rabid conservative as his running mate. Doesn't that give you some confidence that he might be serious about the deficit? If he wasn't, why tie himself to the albatross of Paul Ryan?

I do agree that Mr. Ryan is kind of an anti-spending kind of guy, and as you know a VP is usually window dressing, unless they are a Dick Cheney pedigree VP, which are highly effective. Seriously, do you see Mr. Ryan as being highly effective or window dressing?

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One can only look at the past and attempt to make a determination of what the future will bring.

I completely agree !!!

Clearly that's what you did. Bravo!

Devils: deficit & slow economic recovery.
Anything the Gov does to fix the deficit slows the economy.
Stimulate the economy and increase the deficit. There is no win/win.

The economy has cycles and who ever happens to be president at that time takes the credit or blame. If you believe BO is to blame for the slow recovery to be consistent you would also have to blame W for the crash.

Even a slow recovery is a recovery. The Dow was below 7K now it is over 13K, with contributions my 401K has doubled since the low in 2009. New homes are being built on my street..............................

hahaha

It would be called the "close cover before striking" University

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The Dow is up because most of the key companies on the Dow are profiting from overseas business profits, mostly due to outsourcing. The Dow is NOT, repeat NOT a barometer for the health of the US economy. Try checking GDP and unemployment statistics for a much more meaningful barometer.

I agree that the President is often blamed/credited for the economy. That said, the most important issue that is weighing down our economy is MASSIVELY increased debt aggravated by undue regulations. BOTH B.O. and GW get blame for this. If B.O. gets another term, he will MOST CERTAINLY bury us MASSIVELY deeper in debt, aggravating the situation further. THAT is why he must go, although he probably won't.

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You simple man: stop and think, anything we do to decrease the deficit will also hurt the economy.

Negative! Decreasing the debt will show investors that there is hope for the US economy and will encourage them to invest.

YOU are the simple one, in that you are gullible enough to swallow the liberal chit. The government does NOT create the wealth of the country, they simply confiscate part of it from those who do.

Also, INCREASING REVENUE to the government decreases the deficit. When the economy thrives, the government gets their percentage from a bigger chunk, thus increasing government revenue, thus DECREASING the deficit, that is unless the greedy politicians increase their spending in the meantime in order to buy votes. Follow?

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How would you propose reducing our debt?

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Austerity is working out so well for Greece, Ireland, Spain. Yeah, let's have some of that.

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