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t walgamuth 09-05-2012 04:31 AM

Democratic convention
 
Best two speakers last night were:
(that I saw)
1. The lady helicopter pilot who lost both legs. Wonderful story, well told. When she was finished I think perhaps she was the only one in the house with dry eyes.
2. Michelle Obama.....did a wonderful job. She was clear, relaxed and very normal appearing.

The talking heads criticized for lack of detail on the budget. Hopefully there will be information presented tonight and tomorrow.

David Wilson 09-05-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3005621)
Best two speakers last night were:
(that I saw)
1. The lady helicopter pilot who lost both legs. Wonderful story, well told. When she was finished I think perhaps she was the only one in the house with dry eyes.
2. Michelle Obama.....did a wonderful job. She was clear, relaxed and very normal appearing.

The talking heads criticized for lack of detail on the budget. Hopefully there will be information presented tonight and tomorrow.

I had to laugh at that one.
I didn't know she had any problems in the past with her appearance.
Or is that code talk for "clean". As Joe would say.

Botnst 09-05-2012 07:36 AM

Barack is clean and articulate while Michelle is normal looking.

jplinville 09-05-2012 07:38 AM

What's normal?

elchivito 09-05-2012 10:01 AM

I read "normal" as appearing to be an actual person. In other words, she doesn't look like a game show host.

t walgamuth 09-05-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3005714)
I read "normal" as appearing to be an actual person. In other words, she doesn't look like a game show host.

Bingo.

Dudesky 09-05-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3005621)

The talking heads criticized for lack of detail on the budget.
Hopefully there will be information presented tonight and tomorrow.

That's the plan :D

Dudesky 09-05-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3005651)
Barack is clean and articulate while Michelle is normal looking.

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man." :eek:

rs899 09-05-2012 01:04 PM

I think MO did a pretty good job of it, but I was surprised at how the commentators really went for it.

Still...

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/324553-sherman-set-wayback-machine-september-2008-a.html

I am a Republican ( nominally, but I also voted for Gore and Kerry so...) who voted for McCain, primarily because BO was completely inexperienced , and McCain wasn't. If I had it to do over again (2008 election) I would do the same thing ( he lived another 4 years :o).

I am still voting for experience this time, and Romney hasn't got it. What experience he has, is all bad, IMO. He knows how to create jobs, sure, but not in the US. Can't we collectively find someone who can run this asylum? BO at least has 4 years under his belt. I don't agree with much of what he did, but at least we aren't cratering. I never thought he would be able to do much anyway, so I haven't been as disappointed as the Koolaid drinkers.

I hear the whining about how slow the recovery has been- sure, but we never had the crisis we had in 2008 before as in the wayback machine. We have no manufacturing base now...what do we expect? We keep sending dollars overseas for Chinese crap and foreign oil and if nobody over there buys anything from us what kind of fantasy economy can we have passing fewer dollars around amongst ourselves?

The rancor and bitterness in the Congress has got to stop. There were Democrats and Republican in the good old days and things got done. We are headed for another financial showdown (read sequestration) and it ain't gonna be pretty. Pathetic.

Time to liquidate your holdings and stuff them in the mattress...oh... that's not going to be good for the markets...

cmbdiesel 09-05-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3005714)
I read "normal" as appearing to be an actual person. In other words, she doesn't look like a game show host.

or Satan.....

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...kSJvj1khU6jSSq

panZZer 09-05-2012 02:19 PM

So far---Sappy, syrupy, home spun feel good numbing continuation of last weels dog and pony show. The guy from san antonio sounds like a replay of the cuban guy from Florida.http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/obscene/eck16.gif

cullennewsom 09-05-2012 02:50 PM

I can't tell you how funny this is to me. Reap what you sow. YouTube Flags Democrats' Convention Video on Copyright Grounds | Threat Level | Wired.com

MS Fowler 09-05-2012 05:18 PM

I'll make no comments on the Democrat Convention. Its their show--let them have a good time. Party and rah rah.

We'll get back to issues in a few days.
Enjoy!

engatwork 09-05-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

The talking heads
You talking about the politicians (R's and D's) or the ppl on the teebee?

panZZer 09-05-2012 06:07 PM

It aint ALL bush's fault. a good bit of it , Nafta, repealing Glass Spegal/ deregulation of the investment banks is slick willie's fault, what else did I miss ( not about our dear leader)............oh yea Gatt, and.......... just the sheeet the right wings loooove!

engatwork 09-05-2012 06:51 PM

I'm upset that I'm not going to get to vote for R Paul.

rs899 09-05-2012 07:44 PM

^I already did when I had my chance in the R primary.

Palangi 09-05-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by engatwork (Post 3006066)
I'm upset that I'm not going to get to vote for R Paul.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Home

:D :D :D

engatwork 09-05-2012 08:24 PM

LOL

I was talking about Ron Paul:).

Ara T. 09-05-2012 09:00 PM

Who actually goes to these conventions? Its like hearing PR fluff BS x1000, listening to these speeches for more than 30 seconds almost leaves my eyes permanently rolled back into their sockets.

tbomachines 09-05-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ara T. (Post 3006155)
Who actually goes to these conventions? Its like hearing PR fluff BS x1000, listening to these speeches for more than 30 seconds almost leaves my eyes permanently rolled back into their sockets.

X2, never really saw the point of them.

MS Fowler 09-05-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 3006174)
X2, never really saw the point of them.

Then you missed the point. They are not for you; they are for the party faithful. They are to get them emotionally ready for the final campaign push.

SwampYankee 09-05-2012 10:12 PM

It's just the most bestest thing ever!

Jim B. 09-05-2012 11:20 PM

Michelle Obama, at the lecturn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3005714)
I read "normal" as appearing to be an actual person. In other words, she doesn't look like a game show host.

She looked sexy in that sleeveless summer dress. I don't own a television, but the newspapers today had pic's of her giving her speech.

TOTALLY different than old Hillary in those ugly pants suits she always goes around in; I swear to god she is the Anti-Viagra incarnate..:puke:

t walgamuth 09-05-2012 11:33 PM

Jim, you gotta remember that Hillary is nearly 20 years older than Michelle.

I read today that Bill Clinton now has a 69% approval rating of his presidency.

He really rocked the house tonight.

People used to say to Harry Truman "Give them Hell Harry". Harry would say "I don't give them hell I just tell the truth on them!"

My favorite Democrat saying is "If you want to live like a Republican, better vote Democratic!";)

Dudesky 09-05-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3006006)
I'll make no comments on the Democrat Convention. Its their show--let them have a good time. Party and rah rah.

We'll get back to issues in a few days.
Enjoy!


You mean like God and Jews?

Dudesky 09-05-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006212)
Jim, you gotta remember that Hillary is nearly 20 years older than Michelle.

I read today that Bill Clinton now has a 69% approval rating of his presidency.

He really rocked the house tonight.

People used to say to Harry Truman "Give them Hell Harry". Harry would say "I don't give them hell I just tell the truth on them!"

My favorite Democrat saying is "If you want to live like a Republican, better vote Democratic!";)

I was going to vote for him for a while but then started to fall asleep.

Jim B. 09-05-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006212)
Jim, you gotta remember that Hillary is nearly 20 years older than Michelle.

Well so is Nancy Pelosi and she looked damn OK for her age;

Hillary, ugh. I coudn't get it up for somebody like that even if you pumped an entire truckload of Spanish Fly into my scrotum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006212)

I read today that Bill Clinton now has a 69% approval rating of his presidency.

69????!!! Shome mishtake shurely!!! hahahahaha

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006212)

He really rocked the house tonight.

People used to say to Harry Truman "Give them Hell Harry". Harry would say "I don't give them hell I just tell the truth on them!"

My favorite Democrat saying is "If you want to live like a Republican, better vote Democratic!";)


AHHH TOM. WOULDN'T IT BE MORE FUN TO JUST SIT AROUND WAITING FOR THE WELFARE MAN TO COME AROUND WITH THE SLOP BUCKET?

:D:D:D

retmil46 09-06-2012 02:12 AM

Well, one thing the convention did do was totally f*** up rush hour traffic in Charlotte today. BO just had to be coming in and driving to wherever he was going to stay, at the right time to make the afternoon commute a total PITA for all the locals.

I was listening to WBT AM radio at 3:30 PM, and according to their traffic report, they had various sections of I-77 North and South and I-485 completely blocked off, police stationed on bridges, and most of the DOT traffic cameras turned off, so they could try to keep everyone guessing what his actual route would be.

From what the rest of the traffic report described, it had basically turned Charlotte into one huge traffic jam. Now THERE'S a way to win the hearts and votes of the local populace.:rolleyes:

Another goodie is that they've cancelled plans to hold BO's acceptance speech in Ericsson (ie, Panthers) Stadium tomorrow night. Official line is the possibility of inclement weather - but the radio hosts were calling BS on that - saying that the word they've gotten from local Dem party officials is that they couldn't find enough people to fill the 50,000 capacity stadium, and the big boys were worried that a lot of empty seats would look bad on TV - so they decided to move the speech inside a closed venue.

Problem is, there's a lot of people that stood in line for hours over the past couple of weeks to get passes to attend the speech in the stadium - and the closed venue they're moving to is too small to accomodate anywhere near the number of passes they've already given out - so there's likely to be a bunch of people pissed about that as well.

Not a good showing in a state where you're already behind in the polls.

I've watched all the wheeling and dealing going on locally over the past few months since Charlotte got the nod for the convention. I had the read on this quite a while back that it was going to turn into a gigantic cluster, at least from the viewpoint of the people that live in the area - and doesn't look like I was far wrong. There's been more a$$ kissing, deal making, and money swapping hands than a Rear Admiral Selection Board.

Before this, Charlotte was claiming poverty - no money to replace burned-out streetlamps along I-77, closed down several schools due to lack of funds - but suddenly found millions to spend on new gear and new police officers for the convention crowd, and the funds to cover letting the DNC use Ericsson Stadium free and gratis for BO's speech.

Just get it over with and get them the hell out of town so we can get things back to normal around here.

t walgamuth 09-06-2012 06:30 AM

Perhaps they have decided that the stadium is too hard to secure.

jplinville 09-06-2012 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retmil46 (Post 3006274)
Well, one thing the convention did do was totally f*** up rush hour traffic in Charlotte today. BO just had to be coming in and driving to wherever he was going to stay, at the right time to make the afternoon commute a total PITA for all the locals.

I was listening to WBT AM radio at 3:30 PM, and according to their traffic report, they had various sections of I-77 North and South and I-485 completely blocked off, police stationed on bridges, and most of the DOT traffic cameras turned off, so they could try to keep everyone guessing what his actual route would be.

From what the rest of the traffic report described, it had basically turned Charlotte into one huge traffic jam. Now THERE'S a way to win the hearts and votes of the local populace.:rolleyes:

Another goodie is that they've cancelled plans to hold BO's acceptance speech in Ericsson (ie, Panthers) Stadium tomorrow night. Official line is the possibility of inclement weather - but the radio hosts were calling BS on that - saying that the word they've gotten from local Dem party officials is that they couldn't find enough people to fill the 50,000 capacity stadium, and the big boys were worried that a lot of empty seats would look bad on TV - so they decided to move the speech inside a closed venue.

Problem is, there's a lot of people that stood in line for hours over the past couple of weeks to get passes to attend the speech in the stadium - and the closed venue they're moving to is too small to accomodate anywhere near the number of passes they've already given out - so there's likely to be a bunch of people pissed about that as well.

Not a good showing in a state where you're already behind in the polls.

I've watched all the wheeling and dealing going on locally over the past few months since Charlotte got the nod for the convention. I had the read on this quite a while back that it was going to turn into a gigantic cluster, at least from the viewpoint of the people that live in the area - and doesn't look like I was far wrong. There's been more a$$ kissing, deal making, and money swapping hands than a Rear Admiral Selection Board.

Before this, Charlotte was claiming poverty - no money to replace burned-out streetlamps along I-77, closed down several schools due to lack of funds - but suddenly found millions to spend on new gear and new police officers for the convention crowd, and the funds to cover letting the DNC use Ericsson Stadium free and gratis for BO's speech.

Just get it over with and get them the hell out of town so we can get things back to normal around here.

I was wondering about this. When I went to Savannah, Ga earlier this year, we purposely planned part of the drive to go through Charlotte to see the speedway and have lunch with an old classmate of mine...he kept talking about how the area was in a financial funk, and different places that have shuttered their doors since 2006.

I thought for sure that they would have decided on a swing state, like Ohio, in hopes of swaying the vote...it would have made more sense.

jplinville 09-06-2012 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006349)
Perhaps they have decided that the stadium is too hard to secure.

Doubtful...It had already been cleared by the Secret Service.

t walgamuth 09-06-2012 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 3006227)
Well so is Nancy Pelosi and she looked damn OK for her age;

Hillary, ugh. I coudn't get it up for somebody like that even if you pumped an entire truckload of Spanish Fly into my scrotum.



69????!!! Shome mishtake shurely!!! hahahahaha




AHHH TOM. WOULDN'T IT BE MORE FUN TO JUST SIT AROUND WAITING FOR THE WELFARE MAN TO COME AROUND WITH THE SLOP BUCKET?

:D:D:D

Yeah Nancy did look great when she was interviewed the other night.

But they both have first rate brains and that is really what matters not your sexual attraction to them. they are, after all, politicions not porn stars.:P

engatwork 09-06-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

the Secret Service.
Quote:

politicions not porn stars
Your getting them mixed up with the other ladies that keep the company of the Secret Service.

MTUpower 09-06-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006365)
Yeah Nancy did look great when she was interviewed the other night.

But they both have first rate brains and that is really what matters not your sexual attraction to them. they are, after all, politicions not porn stars.:P

If you think Pelosi has a first rate brain then that explains your mentality. I offer your favorite democrat quote as a prime example- pretty much says I'll let the government give me the stuff I want but have not earned. That's how those that wish for stuff but have not figured out that hard work and smart work will bring it.

SwampYankee 09-06-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retmil46 (Post 3006274)
Another goodie is that they've cancelled plans to hold BO's acceptance speech in Ericsson (ie, Panthers) Stadium tomorrow night.

Wouldn't that be [evil]Bank of America[/evil] Stadium? :confused:;)

t walgamuth 09-06-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUpower (Post 3006373)
If you think Pelosi has a first rate brain then that explains your mentality. I offer your favorite democrat quote as a prime example- pretty much says I'll let the government give me the stuff I want but have not earned. That's how those that wish for stuff but have not figured out that hard work and smart work will bring it.

I love you too William.;)

Edward Wyatt 09-06-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006365)
Yeah Nancy did look great when she was interviewed the other night.

But they both have first rate brains and that is really what matters not your sexual attraction to them. they are, after all, politicions not porn stars.:P

First rate brains that are attuned to the non tax paying moochers of this country in order to buy their votes with the money from the other half that work for a living and pay taxes.

In order to live like a Repulican people need to learn how to make do, do without, fix things up, and wear things out. I for one, am sick and tired of having to pay more than my fair share of taxes and then turn around and see the results.

I was at an equipment auction last month, and my "D" city was auctioning several mint condition three year old Ford F250 pickups with less than 50k miles. The only thing wrong with them was that the warranty had run out.

The father of the gopher that works for me, decided that at 52 years of age he was tired of working , and got on disability with the help of one of the numerous attorneys the specialize in that kind of law. He now gets an EBT card for food, an SSI diability check(for lower back pain), a free govt supplied cell phone with 250 minutes/month, and 75 Oxycontin pills a month courtesy of the taxpayers. He sells all the pills to junkies, and still works as a carpenter when he feels like it. Somehow:rolleyes:, he also has money for an iphone, cable tv, and just bought a second car for 3k cash off craigslist.

The downfall started with Lyndon Johnson and his welfare reforms.....Obama and the rest of the D's simply poured rocket fuel on the fire that already was burning.

LaughingGravy 09-06-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Wyatt (Post 3006416)
The father of the gopher that works for me, decided that at 52 years of age he was tired of working , and got on disability with the help of one of the numerous attorneys the specialize in that kind of law. He now gets an EBT card for food, an SSI diability check(for lower back pain), a free govt supplied cell phone with 250 minutes/month, and 75 Oxycontin pills a month courtesy of the taxpayers. He sells all the pills to junkies, and still works as a carpenter when he feels like it. Somehow:rolleyes:, he also has money for an iphone, cable tv, and just bought a second car for 3k cash off craigslist.

The downfall started with Lyndon Johnson and his welfare reforms.....Obama and the rest of the D's simply poured rocket fuel on the fire that already was burning.

OK, I'll say it. YOU are part of the problem. You know about it, yet you do nothing but sit on a forum and ***** about it.
We had a similar situation with a "retired" fireman out on disability retirement, driving around in a new corvette and having another job building additions.
I wrote a letter and turned his ass in and he was investigated and his benefits were cut down to a little more than half of what they were.
All it takes is a well written letter and copied to the right multiple people.
It has to be to multiple people, so they all see that others are copied on it, so they are forced to do something. If it is one person, nothing happens.
You have to contact people on "both sides of the aisle".
Oh, and for the record, I volunteer with the local fire dept. Bull**** abuse is bull**** and it costs us all.

rs899 09-06-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

In order to live like a Repulican people need to learn how to make do, do without, fix things up, and wear things out. I for one, am sick and tired of having to pay more than my fair share of taxes and then turn around and see the results.
This is me. We don't have a vehicle newer than 1991, and that one was bought for $125. I look at the DNC delegates and wonder how many of them (or people like them) I am supporting.

On the other hand, I just don't get why Romney and the Republicans insist that the top dogs need more tax breaks.

Let them eat cake! If they don't like it where are they going to go- Sweden? They keep saying increasing tax rates on the top earners won't help much with the deficit. So - go deeper. They haven't done anything constructive with the breaks they have gotten in the last 30 years. I am sick of it.

The middle class is an endangered species.

Edward Wyatt 09-06-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaughingGravy (Post 3006431)
OK, I'll say it. YOU are part of the problem. You know about it, yet you do nothing but sit on a forum and ***** about it.
We had a similar situation with a "retired" fireman out on disability retirement, driving around in a new corvette and having another job building additions.
I wrote a letter and turned his ass in and he was investigated and his benefits were cut down to a little more than half of what they were.
All it takes is a well written letter and copied to the right multiple people.
It has to be to multiple people, so they all see that others are copied on it, so they are forced to do something. If it is one person, nothing happens.
You have to contact people on "both sides of the aisle".
Oh, and for the record, I volunteer with the local fire dept. Bull**** abuse is bull**** and it costs us all.

The last thing I am going to do is to rat out a white trash scumbag like this because it's my duty to do so as a good citizen. If the overpaid and lazy morons that gave him all of this new "wealth" could not properly vet him out, then why should I put myself at risk by signing my name to a letter that will be a public record?

How did I become part of the problem simply because I became aware of this? I have no proof that he is cheating the system, but he sure will have proof that I wrote a letter if I do what you suggest.

Posting on the interweb is one thing, but sending multiple letters accusing someone of fraud is something else.

The irony is, that the guy would probably find an attorney to sue me for slander and defamation of charcter, Thereby, reducing that amount of time I have to earn money to send to the govt so that they can give people like this a handout. So, in effect, what you suggest would likely be counterproductive in the grand scheme of things.

Air&Road 09-06-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3005621)
Best two speakers last night were:
(that I saw)
1. The lady helicopter pilot who lost both legs. Wonderful story, well told. When she was finished I think perhaps she was the only one in the house with dry eyes.
2. Michelle Obama.....did a wonderful job. She was clear, relaxed and very normal appearing.

The talking heads criticized for lack of detail on the budget. Hopefully there will be information presented tonight and tomorrow.


Clear budget? Don't bet on hearing that!

Air&Road 09-06-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006365)
Yeah Nancy did look great when she was interviewed the other night.

But they both have first rate brains and that is really what matters not your sexual attraction to them. they are, after all, politicions not porn stars.:P


First Rate Brain?:confused: I saw the Nancy in what you wrote, so it must be a Nancy besides Pelosi!

t walgamuth 09-06-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rs899 (Post 3006461)
This is me. We don't have a vehicle newer than 1991, and that one was bought for $125. I look at the DNC delegates and wonder how many of them (or people like them) I am supporting.

On the other hand, I just don't get why Romney and the Republicans insist that the top dogs need more tax breaks.

Let them eat cake! If they don't like it where are they going to go- Sweden? They keep saying increasing tax rates on the top earners won't help much with the deficit. So - go deeper. They haven't done anything constructive with the breaks they have gotten in the last 30 years. I am sick of it.

The middle class is an endangered species.

Romney's plan will cost you $2000 more a year in taxes if you are average. Of course he will lower his own taxes.

Air&Road 09-06-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3006488)
Romney's plan will cost you $2000 more a year in taxes if you are average. Of course he will lower his own taxes.


Do you have a copy or a link to his plan and how it does this?

t walgamuth 09-06-2012 11:27 AM

no.

David Wilson 09-06-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3006492)
Do you have a copy or a link to his plan and how it does this?

I saw it in one of the newer adds.

It must be true.

Air&Road 09-06-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Wilson (Post 3006564)
I saw it in one of the newer adds.

It must be true.


:laugh4:

LaughingGravy 09-06-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Wyatt (Post 3006462)
The last thing I am going to do is to rat out a white trash scumbag like this because it's my duty to do so as a good citizen. If the overpaid and lazy morons that gave him all of this new "wealth" could not properly vet him out, then why should I put myself at risk by signing my name to a letter that will be a public record?

How did I become part of the problem simply because I became aware of this? I have no proof that he is cheating the system, but he sure will have proof that I wrote a letter if I do what you suggest.

Posting on the interweb is one thing, but sending multiple letters accusing someone of fraud is something else.

The irony is, that the guy would probably find an attorney to sue me for slander and defamation of charcter, Thereby, reducing that amount of time I have to earn money to send to the govt so that they can give people like this a handout. So, in effect, what you suggest would likely be counterproductive in the grand scheme of things.

I did it the cowardly way, and it worked. You don't need to put your name on everything. That's downright foolish.
All I did was cause him to be rightly investigated, and it worked.
I didn't put his name in the papers.

It is in fact your duty, especially if you are going to complain about it and rail about higher taxes supporting these people.

You are part of the problem by becoming aware of it and doing nothing, if you are sure of it, yes similar to being aware of a child molestor, if you are sure of it.
If not, and you are just being told of a hearsay story, then say so.

retmil46 09-06-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwampYankee (Post 3006395)
Wouldn't that be [evil]Bank of America[/evil] Stadium? :confused:;)

Nope, Ericsson is the current owner of the "naming rights" to the stadium. Guess Charlotte got a better deal from them than Bank of India.

Just like they sold the naming rights to Charlotte Motor Speedway to Lowes - and now try to call it Lowes Motor Speedway.

Horses***.:mad:

It was Charlotte Motor Speedway for decades. That's how you can tell a native that grew up here, from one of those idiot NY transplants that have moved in here over the last 15 years - a transplant will call it Lowes Motor Speedway, a native will still call it Charlotte Motor Speedway.


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