Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3066960)

Something needs to be done. Arm/train the teachers. Panic buttons that bolt all the doors automatically. Military style fence and gate guard systems. Start drilling the faculty utilizing military trainers.

See how Israel secures their schools


iPhone 4

Originally Posted by ruchase (Post 3066231)

Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3066576)

There are many so-called "gun free" zones in the United States. Schools, Post Offices, air ports, airliners, banks, bars, restaurants, etc etc. Step that idea up to the world's stage, i.e. Great Britain, Canada, Australia who have severely restricted gun ownership or banned it all together, and the trend is self-evident. Private ownership of firearms is on its way out. If you have a need for self-defense, simply dial 911 and wait. Or, if out in public in a restaurant, at the post office or wherever, hopefully there will be an armed cop or security guard to protect you from the bad people. Since the only people who will have guns are LEOs, the world will suddenly become a very peaceful and safe place to live in.

Sara Brady; a prophet before her time.

Originally Posted by jplinville (Post 3066707)

I, as well as many on this board, grew up in homes with firearms that were never locked up in a safe, nor did they have trigger locks on them. Growing up, my dad always had a 1911, loaded with one in the chamber, sitting in the nook of his headboard. Under his bed, there was a shotgun, again fully loaded, as well as an M1 carbine, again fully loaded. Mom always had her .22 pistol loaded and in the nightstand. I didn't grow up and become a serial killer or a mass murderer. My friends were raised in homes with guns in pretty much the same way...and none of them became serial killers or mass murderers.

We were taught at a very young age to treat all weapons as if they were loaded. We were taught how to check to see if the safety was on, as well as how to properly handle the weapon. We learned at a young age that they are deadly, and not toys. I was 6 years old the first time I got to shoot my dad's M1, 8 when I was given my first .22 rifle, 10 when I was given a shotgun, and 18 when dad gave me my first .38. *GASP* Oh, the horror...how did this young man ever survive his childhood??

Someone, please tell me...How can this be? Why is it that we can have generations of people grow up around guns, and have them all their lives, yet they don't go out and become mass murderers??

Today's youth don't understand consequences anymore. They don't understand that if you don't follow the rules, that you'll be punished. Why is that?? Because years ago, the courts stepped in and started telling parents that they weren't allowed to bust their kids on the ass for breaking the rules. If you did, the child could call the cops, and you'd be hauled off in handcuffs. We, as a society, are now afraid to punish our kids. We're afraid to do much more than tell little Johnny no and put him in time out.

Sorry folks, but a bit more kids getting their rumps beat for breaking the rules at a younger age would teach them about consequences. It worked for the generations prior to mine...it will work for today's generation too.

Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3066971)

Then have police substations on the property. In addition to or in concert with my above ideas.


iPhone 4

Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3066960)

Something needs to be done. Arm/train the teachers. Panic buttons that bolt all the doors automatically. Military style fence and gate guard systems. Start drilling the faculty utilizing military trainers.

See how Israel secures their schools

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3066893)

Delusional to have responsible gun owners??:confused:

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights... :rolleyes:

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others.


And then there's this....
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...A7ivnUgnCtnxvA

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3066991)

Great idea.... more guns....

These other 'improvements'... you are willing to pay your share?

Turn teachers into soldiers... somehow I do not believe the personality profiles will mesh.

And your sign... you pompously claim that no legislation will stop these sick f**ks, but you think a sign will.... :rolleyes:

You are rapidly becoming the poster boy for what I have been on about. The complete lack of reasonable discussion from the gun owner fringe. You guys are going to screw the pooch for gun owners everywhere.

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3066907)

Traveling is not a form of transportation.

If I said I was going to go away, would you promise to do the same?

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 3066986)

well said.....

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 3066977)

you have a woefully inadequate idea of what the Second Amendmant is about. too bad you did not have a good history/governemnt/civics teacher in school. The militia concept is there not only to aid in the defense of the country from outside threats, but primarily from a corrupt government. people who can defend themselves and rise up are citizens, those who can't are subjects. The signers of the document you so cavilerly dismiss had all been subjects. I further submit to you that the First Amendment and all others in the Bill of Rights are tied to and protected by the Second.

Most of us take our rights for granted b/c we have lived here all our lives. One has only to look abroad at despotic goverments to see what havoc and evil can be perpetrated by a bad government.

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 3066993)

fallacious thinking: an armed teacher is not a soldier but a protector. In this case they would have been a savior....

and yes, I would "pay my fair share" to have precious human capital protected. They do it in Mexico and it is a relatively poor country. There is enough $ out there to do this.