This whole topic is making me violently sick.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPN4gXBL1JA
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I will not return to this thread, it is to upsetting.

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Sorry, but when was the last time fertilizer was used to kill dozens of people? Here in the US it's been almost two decades. Weed killer? Can't recall off the top of my head. Knives? I see that a crazy man in china recently wounded a bunch of kids, but most of them lived. The last time before this that someone killed a bunch of strangers with a gun? Less than six months ago.

Let's talk about motor vehicle safety. People seem to really like comparing guns and cars. Cars kill tens of thousands of people in the United States. Actually, about the same numbers as guns do. Why is it that there is an intense focus on automobile safety on the part of government, the insurance industry AND the automobile industry, yet with guns all we do is criticize people for proposing ANY kind of condition on gun ownership? If we thought about automobile safety the same way we think about gun safety, there would be no seatbelts, no airbags, no insurance or registration requirements, no recall requirements, no restrictions on drunk driving.

Commercial aviation? Safest mode of transport in the world. In the US, only 150 people have died on commercial airplanes in the last 10 years. No thanks to government regulation apparently. If we applied gun fatalities to commercial aviation, that would be the equivalent of four 737's crashing each week, 52 weeks a year. Do you think that people would really keep flying with that kind of safety record?

End compulsory schooling. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Mommy goes to jail, and little Susie gets to find out about molestation from Mr and Mrs Foster pervert or psychopaths know exactly where to find lots and lots of victims, with unaccountable babysitters whom have zero tolerance for anything resembling a weapon for miles.

The calm and rational voice of reason speaks again.

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Care to dispute the logic, or just want to skip to the part where you profess your hatred for the human race some more?

Logic would have to be present to be disputed.

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Seeing that this thread keeps returning to the ubiquitous comparison, I thought it’s only fitting...

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Canada: Tight gun laws
USA: The more the better!


Canadian deaths per 100,000 people via firearms: 4.78
USA deaths per 100,000 people via firearms: 9


Thats DOUBLE our northern neighbors.


Guess what it is in Germany? 1.10

Thats right, almost 9 times less than here.

Wonder why that is?
Maybe because no one there owns guns? Duh.
Maybe because the average person is much more educated? Duh again.

The other half of it is the failure of education and social improvement programs in this country... that's a whole different issue...but one that leads to much higher violence.

When you look at the list of countries we're right in there with for gun deaths, its pretty repulsive considering the economic divide between us and all of them:


Country Total firearm-related death rate Homicides Suicides Unintentional Undetermined Year Sources and notes
El Salvador 50.36 50.36 NA NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[1]
Jamaica 47.44 47.44 NA NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[1]
Honduras 46.70 46.70 NA NA NA 2007 OAS 2011[1]
Guatemala 38.52 38.52 NA NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[1]
Swaziland 37.16 37.16 NA NA NA 2004 UNODC 2006[1]
Colombia 28.11 27.10 0.87 0.14 NA 2009 UNODC 2011 [2]
Brazil 19.01 18.10 0.73 0.18 NA 2008 UNODC 2011[3]
Panama 12.92 12.92 NA NA NA 2010 OAS 2011[1]
Mexico 11.14 10.00 0.67 0.47 NA 2010 UNODC 2011[4]
Philippines 9.46 9.46 NA NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]
South Africa 9.41 NA NA NA NA 2012 UNODC 2012[6] & Stats SA[7]
United States 9.00 2.98 5.75 0.27 NA 2008-2010 OAS 2011[8]
Montenegro 8.55 2.06 6.49 NA NA 2009 WHO 2012[9]
Paraguay 7.35 7.35 NA NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[10]
Nicaragua 7.14 7.14 NA NA NA 2007 OAS 2011[1]

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Heroin and cocaine are illegal and use remains high.

DUI is illegal and remains a serious problem.

I know this isnt MotherJones but,

#3: Gun Control Has Reduced The Crime Rates In Other Countries - Gun Owners of America



And as far as the above post.

Population of the USA 314,948,954
Poulation of Canada 33,476,688

Your math is dishonest.

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Why exactly would the total populace of the country have anything to do with, or disprove, a statistic showing gun related deaths per 100,000 people?

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Right you are...

Regardless of the size of the U.S. and other countries in comparison, the sampled population is reflective of the aggregate population, provided the sample is randomly selected.

DUI is illegal and an issue for the same reason gun violence is an issue. We refuse to take action against it. People are not held responsible for their actions. A DUI driver still get to keep their license and their car. You want to bet that is if the law required loss of the car for a DUI stop that DUI would drop?

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- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Agreed, so many of our laws on these very serious/dangerous/destructive issues are far too lax.

In Germany if you are caught DUI, you lose your license instantly for minimum 6 months, and have to pay massive fines (several thousand Euros). If caught again, you have to undergo a psych evaluation, pay HUGE fines (15,000+ euro) , go to prison, lose your license for a minimum of 2 years...after that strike three and you're doomed to ever drive again in most cases + prison.

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'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

Do the police in Germany actively pursue DUI arrests in the manner of US police departments?

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The regulation changes nothing. Regulate the guns into oblivion and the weapon of choice will change not the decision of the criminal.

Cop killers. lol Media hype.

My rights are exactly as the same as yours. Just because you don't want yours does not mean I lose mine. That act of an idiot with a bat does not equate to idiotic bat regulation.

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