Thugs kill thugs, criminals that carry guns to do their "job" don't bother with civilians that often, they use it against their rival thugs. Most gun victims knew there assailant; same with rape and child sex abuse victims. A point the gun swaggers don't seem to get.

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...........would you like to explain that to the 20 sets of parents?


I wouldn't.

He was not a thug in my book but a very sick person with a mom that knew the danger but didn't took the right steps. She was a victim of her own fear.


It's not ridicules at all. Look at the numbers, murders by complete strangers are extremely rare and that's why they make the news.

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I didn't call him a thug.

I called you out for this statement:

This makes him a "criminal that carries a gun to do his 'job'.


You went OT and attempted to derail the argument.


How would you like to explain your position to the 20 sets of parents? When you think about that, you then realize how ridiculous your position actually is.


The only way you keep your position is to accept the ongoing mass murders that will continue to occur because they don't happen frequently enough to warrant any government action. If this is your position, please state it openly.

It's a valid position, IMHO. Far more people will killed by automobiles on Friday than were killed by a wacko with a gun.

I don't think I made my self clear. When we're talking about thugs I think we're talking about career criminals. Because I can't to find a thug in this story only a very sick individual a mother that didn't took responsibility and 28 victims.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

No, you didn't make yourself clear.

What you did was to derail the argument and refer to career criminals and thugs, neither of which, by your own admission, were responsible for this tragedy.

So, therefore, I conclude that your statements were OT and unrelated to any of the current discussion regarding random acts of violence against assembled masses of unarmed civilians.

The question begs whether you deliberately derailed the thread or are just unable to follow the thread?

Nothing deliberately.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

Ridiculous. Some sort of thug code in effect. Murderers murder and thugs thug. No civilian/thug line. Ban guns and thugs will still have them and use them on the now unarmed civilians. Brilliant.

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