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t walgamuth · #16 04-04-2013, 11:53 PM

I won't push either way but will say this....going back to your old employer would not put me off much. Your new one cut your pay is a pretty good reason to leave, and going back to your old employer proves they liked your work.

spdrun · #17 04-04-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ruchase

However, I feel terrible about the people at my current employer, as they have tried very hard to make me feel welcome, and they always go above and beyond to help me with new assignments. In fact, I learned after that they turned down more qualified candidates to specifically hire me.

Business isn't personal, and you can still stay friends with ex-coworkers and even ex-bosses after leaving. If they take it personal, f**k them with a sharp stick.

spdrun · #18 04-04-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture

It sounds like your current job would allow you to have maximum time spent with your soon to have children. If you like both jobs equally, then stay put. Nobody likes gypsies.

One could always emulate Paul Simon and lie, lie, lie like a boxer on the resume. The middle job never existed, or perhaps was only a term contract.

t walgamuth · #19 04-05-2013, 06:22 AM

Everybody expects you to present the facts about yourself as positively as possible. Lying though if discovered can cost you your job....besides being a bad idea in general.

I cannot understand how a man with so many good ideas as Spdrun can be so nasty for no reason.

ruchase · #20 04-05-2013, 12:09 PM

Thank you all for the valuable feedback...this is what I needed. I forgot to mention, my old job is very flexible, while my current job is a typical cubicle environment for the days that I'm in the office. At my old job I can make my own hours, as long as I complete the review within the deadline; also, at my old job I was teleworking around 25% of the time, while the rest of the time was flexed out. The only downside is overnight travel, which averages about 8 weeks per year.

Well I'm leaning towards returning to my old employer, but I will probably give my current employer plenty of notice and complete all my assignments before I leave. Thanks again!

dynalow · #21 04-05-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ruchase

Thank you all for the valuable feedback...this is what I needed. I forgot to mention, my old job is very flexible, while my current job is a typical cubicle environment for the days that I'm in the office. At my old job I can make my own hours, as long as I complete the review within the deadline; also, at my old job I was teleworking around 25% of the time, while the rest of the time was flexed out. The only downside is overnight travel, which averages about 8 weeks per year.

Well I'm leaning towards returning to my old employer, but I will probably give my current employer plenty of notice and complete all my assignments before I leave. Thanks again!

"My back ground is finance and prior to that I was an auditor for financial institutions, which required quite a bit of travel."

Truthfully, I've always found auditing boooooring. Full of GAAS!

Of course, I refer to audits of financial statements of private companies. I don't know what "auditing" you do for these financial institutions, but it goes without saying in today's post SOX world auditors will never, and I mean never, lack for work. I signed my last audit report about four years ago and don't regret giving up audit work in the least.

Don't discount the cover a group health plan can provide you and your family as we head into the uncharted waters of Obamacare. (I don't recall you mentioning your current health ins. coverage)
Don't ignore the 401-k benefits either. Save or perish. Take the money & run.
If the company is small enough, that match % may increase with profitability. My firm matched 50 cents on the dollar.

Only downside I'm seeing is the 2 months away from home. Traveling will get old just as you will, especially with children.

Good luck.

aklim · #22 04-05-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ruchase

however, my boss assures me they will not let me go.

My prior employer has slightly better benefits (they pay more towards 401k matching and employer contributed health insurance premiums), but they cannot give me a pay raise at this time; however, I can promote relatively easily if there is an opening

PUT IT IN WRITING OR IT DOESN'T EXIST. I heard that one before right after a huge layoff where HR came to your desk and gave you a box and told you to pack up. Thanks but no thanks. Your word don't mean squat.

Better benefits is a good thing. I would trade some improvement in benefits in lieu of a small pay raise.

aklim · #23 04-05-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

How about Tramps and Thieves?

If the tramps are hot girls, why not?

aklim · #24 04-05-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

One could always emulate Paul Simon and lie, lie, lie like a boxer on the resume. The middle job never existed, or perhaps was only a term contract.

And what happens if you get caught? I know I'd fire the guy INSTANTLY regardless, on principle. Why? Because if he can lie to get out of a tight situation, there is no telling when he would lie to me. Before you lie, I can give you the benefit of the doubt. Once you lie, well, you removed all doubt. Now if I keep you, I have this "Sword of Damocles" hanging around all day long. Thanks but no thanks.

aklim · #25 04-05-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Everybody expects you to present the facts about yourself as positively as possible. Lying though if discovered can cost you your job....besides being a bad idea in general.

I cannot understand how a man with so many good ideas as Spdrun can be so nasty for no reason.

Yes, you can present it as positively as possible but outright lying crosses that line. Worse than a job, it can cost you your professional reputation. Who knows who he guy you lied to will talk to? In this electronic age, a lot of things can be found out. You got to ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?". Well, do ya, Punk?

When you believe people are basically bad, you will understand.

aklim · #26 04-05-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ruchase

but I will probably give my current employer plenty of notice and complete all my assignments before I leave. Thanks again!

Two weeks is pretty much the professional standard but that will go a long way towards easing any possible hard feelings that might linger.

ruchase · #27 04-07-2013, 04:21 PM

You're right Dynalow, typical audit work is boring. I do a bit of both - audit/transaction testing, and also some risk management, which is frankly more enoyable than just auditing.

Thanks aklim - yes, I'll only put in my notice at the present employer once I have an offer letter in my hand.

Thanks again for the useful comments.

Skid Row Joe · #28 04-07-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Yes, you can present it as positively as possible but outright lying crosses that line. Worse than a job, it can cost you your professional reputation. Who knows who he guy you lied to will talk to? In this electronic age, a lot of things can be found out. You got to ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?". Well, do ya, Punk?

When you believe people are basically bad, you will understand.

Lying is never wrong or bad. How could it be? Another's moral compass is not to be questioned nor judged.

aklim · #29 04-07-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Lying is never wrong or bad. How could it be? Another's moral compass is not to be questioned nor judged.

I am not talking to you about morality. Lying is bad from a practical standpoint.

Skid Row Joe · #30 04-07-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I am not talking to you about morality. Lying is bad from a practical standpoint.

It's all up to one's interpretation. If a lie is not proven to be a lie, then it's not a lie. Not to be judged by others, since it may not be a lie OR bad to the person telling it. It's either rumor, misunderstood, envy, or character assassination at work against the individual. Whether or not it's moral, doesn't really matter I suppose. Every man for himself.