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P.C. · #**106** 05-02-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Are you comparing me to hitler?

No.

Jorn · #**107** 05-02-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

No.

I knew this was coming.

Diesel911 · #**108** 05-02-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

how?

My unsupported opinion:
The point was I believe the right wing media machine to be better organized but smaller than the left wing media machine. I have also said that outlets that are more on the democratic party side are more numerous, as reflected by actual members of the party as well. This is not really a numbers comparison, its a comparison in organization as far as im concerned. I simply see the republican media machine as more disciplined and skillful in its specific goals than the larger, more disorganized much feared and complained about bogeyman, the MSM.

do you disagree?

You find the comment biased because I think republican media is better organized than democratic? should the both be equally incompetent, or equally skillful?
I don't have much respect for the inferiority complex of right leaning media as well. to my eyes, bloth are about equal in airtime if you flip around looking at talking heads. Ive stopped frequenting any, only watching my local news for traffic in the morning these days.

Not so much the bias, but I hate the media process of manufactured and extended crisis for the purposes of air time. Takes skill to stand in front of a mike for 20 minutes and yap endlessly, but its not a skill id ever want.

I think you missed something. The Conservative Media is Smaller but better funded. It does not have to be as large as the Liberal Media because the Audience is smaller.

The Liberal Media has to cater to a larger Audience that had more divers ideas so that makes it seam disorganized.

All of the Medias have to get the attention of the Target Audience and hold it. Part of that means they have to say what the Target Audience wants to hear; even if that is BS.

Diesel911 · #**109** 05-02-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

true, anything is possible, but I doubt it in this circumstance with this person.

Heres a guy who gets offended at anything, blusters and threats, feels persecuted, and spends half the rest of the time attacking a specific public figure in odd ways without really any information or cause, and there are plenty of legitimate ones, and the other half telling himself how he was raised and how great he is.

If hes a lot more complex, he hasn't bothered to demonstrate that on the forum

It sounds like that "Guy" has a great future as a Liberal Politician.

tbomachines · #**110** 05-02-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I think you missed something. The Conservative Media is Smaller but better funded. It does not have to be as large as the Liberal Media because the Audience is smaller.

The Liberal Media has to cater to a larger Audience that had more divers ideas so that makes it seam disorganized.

All of the Medias have to get the attention of the Target Audience and hold it. Part of that means they have to say what the Target Audience wants to hear; even if that is BS.

...source?

P.C. · #**111** 05-02-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

...source?

Sport Diver Magazine.

Diesel911 · #**112** 05-02-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

...source?

I have no source on that just Opinion. And, I will add that is is juse an unsupported opinion.

JB3 · #**113** 05-03-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I think you missed something. The Conservative Media is Smaller but better funded. It does not have to be as large as the Liberal Media because the Audience is smaller.

The Liberal Media has to cater to a larger Audience that had more divers ideas so that makes it seam disorganized.

All of the Medias have to get the attention of the Target Audience and hold it. Part of that means they have to say what the Target Audience wants to hear; even if that is BS.

We pretty much are in agreement on most of this.

JB3 · #**114** 05-03-2013, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

It sounds like that "Guy" has a great future as a Liberal Politician.

Fits a lot of politicians, from across the spectrum, but you hit on an interesting idea. Sometimes what we most fear is what we understand the best. IE. If I had no idea that something was unsafe, I would not fear it, but if im completely aware that it could collapse at any moment, and understand its weaknesses, then id be a lot more worried. Perhaps this guy sees in himself what he hates the most in a public figure, and therefore must lead the attack.

Air&Road · #**115** 05-03-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I think you missed something. The Conservative Media is Smaller but better funded. It does not have to be as large as the Liberal Media because the Audience is smaller.

The Liberal Media has to cater to a larger Audience that had more divers ideas so that makes it seam disorganized.

All of the Medias have to get the attention of the Target Audience and hold it. Part of that means they have to say what the Target Audience wants to hear; even if that is BS.

The conservative media is better funded because many people are hungry for ANYTHING besides the mainstream liberal media. That means that the conservative media has more viewers because a conservative outlet has very little conservative media competition. With more viewership, they sell more advertising at higher rates, thus more funding.

tbomachines · #**116** 05-03-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I have no source on that just Opinion. And, I will add that is is juse an unsupported opinion.

Fair enough, sounded like something that was coming from somewhere which is why I asked. I haven't seen definitive figures on that and I think it would be interesting. I generally agree with you and JB on the point though.

JB3 · #**117** 05-03-2013, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Oh, so you were the one who called me a liar and refused to apologize? I don't remember what you went by in those days, but it makes complete sense now that I understand how you assume that everyone else responds and thinks the same as you do.

That was probably the most rude, unfair and incorrect attack I've ever seen on this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself for all that, but there I go, thinking that others have the same values as myself.

I know the truth about that box stuffer, but since you react to things differently than I do, you condemn me based on what your own responses might have been.

Tell you what, you claimed your lack of respect for me. Stop and think about how much disrespect that is..... Now multiply that by about a thousand. That is how much disrespect I have for someone who passes judgment on someone else based on how he himself would react to a situation, the way you did about that incident.

I asked for evidence, you had none, you tried to extort a false apology instead, and still have no evidence. You were lying. You got upset that literally everyone who was responding didn't believe you, sorry. Then you got hysterical and said everyone didn't like you. same shlt, different day.

Regarding this thread, as for how I arrived at the opinion that you hate the man and not the actions, I arrived at that via observation of your MANY threads on Obama. Instead of going back and forth with accusations, let me give you an example-

taken from this thread-
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/338010-fleet-week-cancelled-due-sequester.html

In the above thread, you said in post 3-

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The interesting part of the sequestor is that rather than cutting the rate of growth across the board, which would have never been noticed, he did all these HIGHLY VISIBLE cuts, so as to punish the American people in a way to draw attention to his political motives

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I said that he was cutting things that are visible for the purpose of causing people pain for his own political gain. His goal is to cause such pain and blame it on that nasty opposing party. A first year political science major would be able to see that from a mile away.

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The sequestor was the arrogant asses own idea. In the sequestor HE is the one that chooses where to cut. By making the cuts very visible, like ships for televised occasions and hassles for air travelers, he makes it widely known that there was a budget cut and points the finger at his opposition to blame for it.

post 27 (after leaning that seqestration was actually not a proposed measure from Obama)-

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Maybe not the arrogant asses idea, but he bought into it, proposed it and hung his hat on it. As with other things that failed for Obama, he ran from it as hard as he could as soon as it turned into a hot potato.

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Yes I did INDEED blame the crap on him, and he DID INDEED run from it once it turned into the political turd in the punchbowl. This is his standard MO.

lets see, post 3, 17, and 24 its all about how Obama is doing this to hurt us, how hes behind it completely, how it was his idea, ect ect.

However, notice the dramatic shift in tactics in post 27 and post 30. Suddenly its not that hes doing this to punish us, its that hes a coward and ran from it, ect ect.

Now, its very clear from this simple example, which is one of dozens I can post, that for you, the action is nearly irrelevant compared to the animosity you hold for the MAN. You commit yourself to blaming him completely for everything you don't like, building him up as the idea man and puppeteer behind all the bad things about sequestration, the driving force to cut things that punish us all out of some kind of political strategy as you call it.

You do this without apparently having the slightest idea how sequestration came to be. When you get your dose of reality, suddenly you throw out all that earlier stuff, and in a nearly complete reversal, its not that he is behind it, its now bad that hes running from it like a coward.

Thats not the behavior of someone who logically hates an individuals actions as you profess in this thread, but the behavior of someone who illogically despises a person, and wishes to attribute anything they can possibly dig up to them negatively, even at the expense of placing themselves in the above hypocritical situation repeatedly.

Dudesky · #**118** 05-03-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

...source?

Source out the Koch Brothers foundation and the Ford Foundation.....

Air&Road · #**119** 05-03-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

I asked for evidence, you had none, you tried to extort a false apology instead, and still have no evidence. You were lying. You got upset that literally everyone who was responding didn't believe you, sorry. Then you got hysterical and said everyone didn't like you. same shlt, different day.

Regarding this thread, as for how I arrived at the opinion that you hate the man and not the actions, I arrived at that via observation of your MANY threads on Obama. Instead of going back and forth with accusations, let me give you an example-

taken from this thread-
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/338010-fleet-week-cancelled-due-sequester.html

In the above thread, you said in post 3-

post 17-

post 24-

post 27 (after leaning that seqestration was actually not a proposed measure from Obama)-

post 30-

lets see, post 3, 17, and 24 its all about how Obama is doing this to hurt us, how hes behind it completely, how it was his idea, ect ect.

However, notice the dramatic shift in tactics in post 27 and post 30. Suddenly its not that hes doing this to punish us, its that hes a coward and ran from it, ect ect.

Now, its very clear from this simple example, which is one of dozens I can post, that for you, the action is nearly irrelevant compared to the animosity you hold for the MAN. You commit yourself to blaming him completely for everything you don't like, building him up as the idea man and puppeteer behind all the bad things about sequestration, the driving force to cut things that punish us all out of some kind of political strategy as you call it.

You do this without apparently having the slightest idea how sequestration came to be. When you get your dose of reality, suddenly you throw out all that earlier stuff, and in a nearly complete reversal, its not that he is behind it, its now bad that hes running from it like a coward.

Thats not the behavior of someone who logically hates an individuals actions as you profess in this thread, but the behavior of someone who illogically despises a person, and wishes to attribute anything they can possibly dig up to them negatively, even at the expense of placing themselves in the above hypocritical situation repeatedly.

Okay I read your entire post.

To begin with, I did NOT lie. How can I produce evidence of something that happened over ten years ago in a dimly lit area? Since you never apologized, then you are continuing the most rude type of personal insult. Just because it does not add up in your mind does not make you correct.

About the Obama comments. I read them carefully. I do indeed think that he has the attitude of an arrogant ass. I also detest MANY things that he does. How does that mean that I hate him as opposed to hating his attitude, opinion and actions? Here again, you are applying the way that you think and respond to things to way the way that OTHERS think and respond, and apparently can't deal with it.

You would do very well to stop and realize that not everyone thinks and responds the same as you do.

Chris Bell · #**120** 05-04-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

How come we never see any left wing outrage threads? We constantly get these childish end of the world threads and the ones that try to pretend that Obama is Hitler and so forth, but never any left wing rants.

What is the explanation?

Go back to when Bush was president and you'll see plenty of them. LWNJ conspiracy du jour.