Heaven, Hell and the Devil - Page 33 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

elchivito · #**481** 07-01-2013, 01:37 PM

It's all beside the point.

P.C. · #**482** 07-01-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

It's all beside the point.

What IS the point? If you have a good answer to that question, you win today's prize...

aklim · #**483** 07-01-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

What IS the point? If you have a good answer to that question, you win today's prize...

Maybe the point is that we lacked understanding of what we did and the reasons why we couldn't do something. However since the time is long past, the commands don't make sense anymore. Like the superstition we had.

kerry · #**484** 07-01-2013, 02:17 PM

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It made good sense not to eat pork given the fact it can kill you if not properly cooked. Beef and lamb is a bit more forgiving.

But there's no evidence that the laws were instituted for health reasons. It's just as possible that the laws were instituted in order to serve as a marker between God's people and those who weren't.

oldsinner111 · #**485** 07-01-2013, 02:28 PM

I look back on the old testament were towns including animals were slaughtered.Maybe a desease that had to be wiped out.

aklim · #**486** 07-01-2013, 03:16 PM

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But there's no evidence that the laws were instituted for health reasons. It's just as possible that the laws were instituted in order to serve as a marker between God's people and those who weren't.

You mean like a cow being branded.

aklim · #**487** 07-01-2013, 04:09 PM

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I look back on the old testament were towns including animals were slaughtered.Maybe a desease that had to be wiped out.

Maybe something happened and someone did a spin job to claim how powerful their deity was by taking credit for a disaster.

oldsinner111 · #**488** 07-01-2013, 04:13 PM

true what we read is hearsay.It was passed down generations till Man learned to write. I have trouble with a all knowing God that banished women from camp,because of their monthly cycle.

aklim · #**489** 07-01-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111

true what we read is hearsay.It was passed down generations till Man learned to write. I have trouble with a all knowing God that banished women from camp,because of their monthly cycle.

When you see that the deity asks a follower to prove his loyalty by killing his son, what you speak about isn't that far fetched. My father would be extatic if I exceeded him and would help me towards that goal. Not so in the Tower of Babel. Or how about blinding someone till they toe your line?

kerry · #**490** 07-01-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

You mean like a cow being branded.

Similar. But following food rules requires an act of the will so it's not quite like a branding. The rule can be ignored. A cow can't ignore it's brand.

oldsinner111 · #**491** 07-01-2013, 04:46 PM

I hate pork anyways its a nasty animal.

mgburg · #**492** 07-01-2013, 05:23 PM

The Old Testament (OT) vs. the New Testament (NT) is just that, history vs. now.

Following the teachings of Christ is NOT what the Crusaders did. They were the EyeForAnEye Gang...stupid from the word go.

As for Islam and the drivel coming from Muhammed...poison from the trampled. Islam is like anything against another religion...hell (pardon the pun), they can't even get along with their own kind...how would ANYONE (Muslim, Jew, Christian, Spahgetti-Monster, Buddist, Moaist, Atheist, whatever) expect anyone to be of the same mind and matter?

The NT is what God wanted everyone to be like...Christ-like in that you treat everyone as you would like to be treated, believe in one God, not some flavor-of-the-day nutjob that eats grass and drinks his urine.

Just believe. No prayers to some crumbling wall, shiney temple, bullet-scarred mosque, dirt hut, church down the street or some piece of cloth hanging in some wad's closet. No sacred cow, bull, beetle, cat or cat's scat. No marking yourself as to what sect you belong to or section-housing you escaped from. No tithing, alms or donations to some project to be built, donated to, covered up or to cover underfunding from some snake-oil hack's sale.

Just believe that Christ died as the One and Final Offering...the lamb for God.

So simple to do yet so hard for many to understand and accept.

Does anyone need to know you did it?

Nope.

It's between you and God.

Now...if you'd like to talk to others about it...don't put on the armor, get on a high horse and take on the masses.

Just ask if anyone's interested.

Those that don't mind listening, will listen.

The others?

I believe the saying that best applies to this thread is this "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).

We know a few on here who have been torn to pieces.

But, can we fervently hope that those that might be perceived as dogs and swine come about and have a change of heart? Nor should they be expected to have to openly profess their change. Remember, it's a process that need only be between themselves and God.

It will and should, eventually, become evident on its own, by their words and deeds.

BTW, Hell is real. We only THINK we know what it's about. None of us will understand, truly, the true horrors of its existence until it's too late.

aklim · #**493** 07-01-2013, 05:27 PM

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I hate pork anyways its a nasty animal.

How is it different from any other creature?

oldsinner111 · #**494** 07-01-2013, 05:36 PM

in the wild even they will poop in the mud wallow and lay in it,I don't like commercial chicken either the farmers make them walk thru filth,and eat there food from the ground.At least we don't eat cow legs.or do we? OH yeah I know how chicken feed is made,corn,blood,parts of chickens.

Skippy · #**495** 07-01-2013, 05:51 PM

Bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.

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