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Hatterasguy · #16 05-06-2015, 09:19 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jenWQy4Zm-w

Lets take off and blast some yanks!

The Germans had awesome aircraft and were winning the Battle of Britain until they started focusing on London and the USSR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sz5t-m9IOE

Hatterasguy · #17 05-06-2015, 09:40 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj7Ol89yFt4

B17 engine start.

I love these old war birds. When I was a kid I took a model airplane class with a bunch of old timers who were WW2 Army air core vets. I wish they were still around because I remember a handful of stories and I'm sure they had many more.

One was a gunner on a PBY flying boat in the pacific. He said they had a new guy and a Zero came up on them one time and was shooting at them. The new gunner hid behind a bulkhead. He was like you (*^&&*(&*(& its only 1/2 plywood get on your gun!

mytmousemalibu · #18 05-06-2015, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj7Ol89yFt4

B17 engine start.

I love these old war birds. When I was a kid I took a model airplane class with a bunch of old timers who were WW2 Army air core vets. I wish they were still around because I remember a handful of stories and I'm sure they had many more.

One was a gunner on a PBY flying boat in the pacific. He said they had a new guy and a Zero came up on them one time and was shooting at them. The new gunner hid behind a bulkhead. He was like you (*^&&*(&*(& its only 1/2 plywood get on your gun!

I am a Plane-Nut, 150%! I love aviation so much, I dropped out of the automotive field after being around it and in it as a kid, to going to Wyotech and BMW school and doing that for 10yrs. I went to school again and got my A&P and glad I did, love it! I work on corporate and commercial jets for a living but I have always been a Warbird fanatic. Everything from building plastic models to r/c planes and going to airshows. While sadly I know very few WWII vets, I work with and am very good friends with a lot that served in Vietnam and those guys have some good stories too! I just love all of it! I hope to someday retire or work on warbirds as a hobby when the time comes.

If it flies, I like it! And nothing sounds better than a big radial!

Next on the docket, private pilots licence

pj67coll · #19 05-07-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate Stanley

These are indeed license-built BF 109 airframes, first flown in 1954. They used RR Merlins, which is an upright V-12..and it changed the nose of the aircraft considerably. It is referred to as the HA-1112-M1. Wikipedia says 172 were built.

I watched on of them flying at the Biggin Hill air show a few years ago, along with a bunch of Spits' Hurricains, Lancaster, B17 etc...

- Peter.

pj67coll · #20 05-07-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mytmousemalibu

Thats really kind of stupid to want A/C in something like a Me-262 unless he plans on flying below 6000' or so all the time.

You have to get up there first. Starting, taxiing, generally futzing around on the ground in 110 plus degree heat long before you get anywhere near 6000 feet. And the 262 canopy is a massive greenhouse.

- Peter.

ILUVMILS · #21 05-07-2015, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860

I think he said in the video that pilot skill being equal, the P51 and Spitfire didn't stand a chance against the 109. Clearly your dad was a skilled pilot. Germany was losing all of their skilled pilots and not putting enough effort into replacing them.

What did he fly?

I think you would like this video as well if you haven't seen it already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie3SrjLlcUY

Thanks for the link.

My Dad was a waist gunner in a B-24 Liberator. He flew twenty nine missions in 1943-44 and was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross when he was only twenty years old.

dynalow · #22 05-07-2015, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jenWQy4Zm-w

Lets take off and blast some yanks!

The Germans had awesome aircraft and were winning the Battle of Britain until they started focusing on London and the USSR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sz5t-m9IOE

Strange Irony this thread about the ME109.
Anyone care to guess what occurred 70 years ago today?
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Alfred Jodl signed Germany's unconditional surrender in Reims France.

Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims - May 07, 1945 - HISTORY.com
http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/07/may-7-1945-nazi-germany-surrenders-in-world-war-ii/?_r=0

Hermann Goering, who commanded the Luftwaffe, was also apprehended the night of May7-8 1945.

On the evening of May 7, 1945 German Corps G, First Germany Army, and the U.S. Seventh Army had negotiated a cease-fire, and both units agreed to stop troop movements as well as to cease shooting at each other. During this time Göring sent a note to Seventh Army Headquarters in Kitzbühel, Austria, informing them that he would meet the Americans at the Fischhorn Castle at Zell am See, to surrender. At the time of his note Göring was staying at his Mauterndorf Castle, about 100 miles from the Fischhorn.
Nazi Treasures: Goering's Capture

Prize Catch of the 36th Infantry Division 9 (A Texas outfit BTW

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....Von Brauchitsch arrived at the Division CP early in the morning of May 7 with a message to Gen. Eisenhower and Gen. Devers, Commanding Sixth Army Group. He explained his mission to Gen. Dahlquist and Gen. Stack, offering to send his driver with the latter to Goering's secret hideaway. Gen. Stack accompanied the driver and intercepted the pompous Goering on a road near Radstadt, about 35 miles southeast of Salzburg. The marshal understood some English, spoke very little. He was accompanied in his Mercedes Benz by his Frau Emmy, daughter Edda, several military aides and personal retainers....
Prize Catch

panZZer · #23 05-07-2015, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselPaul

STOP PRESS: Barn finds for sale, license built Messerschmitt Me-109G - WAR HISTORY ONLINE

This says $800,000-$1,100,000 were the asking prices.

One is left on Platinum Fighters site but it its $POA

I wonder if ole harrie will tell the govt his "religious organization " just had to have one

mytmousemalibu · #24 05-07-2015, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

You have to get up there first. Starting, taxiing, generally futzing around on the ground in 110 plus degree heat long before you get anywhere near 6000 feet. And the 262 canopy is a massive greenhouse.

- Peter.

I've been in a Vans RV-7 in the summer which has a big greenhouse canopy. Most guys in any airplane with windows or canopies taxi and what not with them open. Even military jets. Sure it can be warm, been there, done that. It is tolerable in most cases. What i'm getting at is, just buying and slapping a compressor, evaporator, and condenser is not a small task for an aircraft. Especially in a jet and the config of a Me-262. You would have to use an electrical motor (likely 400Hz AC) driven compressor for example. The engines generators have to be rated to handle that extra load with margin. Last I knew the reproduction Me-262's were being powered with GE J85 or CJ610's. Old engines that have long been out of common use. Not like you can go grab a properly generator off a shelf for one. A generator for a gas turbine engine could be as little as $30,000 or some I have changed were in excess of $200,000. So a guy could suck it up and be warm for a little bit, or add on potentially another $50,000? to the price of the plane plus weight. Weight is everything in aviation. Hey if you've got the money....