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Old 01-11-2016, 11:48 AM
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2017 E Class Unveil

Never a more impressive leap forward in technology in the history of MB, that's for sure.

The 2017 Mercedes E-Class will steer itself up to 130 miles per hour | The Verge

Still a bit behind Tesla.

http://nypost.com/2015/03/20/teslas-new-model-s-will-park-itself-then-pick-you-up/

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Old 01-11-2016, 12:10 PM
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Yay! Commute 100 miles each way while using your iDevice to watch pr0n. Burn more fuel! Just what we need!

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Old 01-11-2016, 12:27 PM
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I'm sorry to say I have to give it a C- for styling. Just not my cup of tea. Kinda stodgy imo.
Yeah, Yeah, I know, beauty's only skin deep. But I'm not drilling for oil, or 100 mph safety.

Saw the head of BMW on Bloomberg this morning introducing the new 2017 coupe. Guy asked him if he was driving one... He said it's kid of small. I drive the 7 series sedan.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:53 PM
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The (e)220D is back!
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Old 01-11-2016, 01:24 PM
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Where they have really stepped up, imo, is interiors. Just as nice as a Bentley or Rolls for half the price.
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Old 01-11-2016, 01:38 PM
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I like it.

What I like even more about autonomous vehicles is that they are a short step away from empowering people to use a vehicle of their choice on an as needed basis. In the not too distant future most won't need to own a vehicle when they can rent time as needed.

The savings in everything from parking space to road congestion will be phenomenal.

Of course every job based around driving nearly everything will also end.
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Old 01-11-2016, 01:54 PM
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Bullcrap -- most people will still own vehicles outside of urban areas. A large portion of people like using their vehicles to store "stuff" and don't like sharing seats with random people who just sat there. Also, they tend to want to go NOW, not wait 5-10 minutes for a vehicle to show up.

Also, yay. More fat turds in the US. The only exercise some Americans get is walking across a parking lot, and this is about to go bye-bye if the sensory deprivation bubble picks people up at the door and drops them off, then goes to park or on another trip. Not to mention that autonomous cars will make sprawl much easier to live with. They'll take us back to the Robert Moses ideal of the car-based future. And can you imagine walking or cycling if cum-pootah driven cars are doing this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVQ8bGvLkCA&t=60

As far as cars-as-a-service. Just what we god damn need. Every trip being tied to a credit card #, with start and end points stored for life. Helloooooo surveillance state. Sometimes progress makes me wish for a massive economic collapse to kick that crap a few more years into the future. What's going on with China and the stock market is a good start -- hopefully it will spread and get much, much nastier before it gets better.

I don't see a brighter future. I see more social isolation, surveillance, and sickness. Maybe it's time for me to start looking at developing countries where there won't be money to implement this abortion of a society until well after I'm dead.

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Old 01-11-2016, 02:04 PM
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I have adaptive cruise control on my Taurus, and it can be a great convenience when driving in medium-density interstate traffic. Basically I set it for the maximum desired speed and the radar adjusts speed accordingly when traffic looms ahead or fades away. It's even tied into the braking system, and can decelerate the car pretty sharply if a car changes lanes and cuts me off. The only thing that I don't like about this particular system is that it deactivates at about 25 mph, so there have been times when the car has been braking to maintain a gap; the car drops down to that speed, and the "son, you're on your own" chime dings to let you know that you're freewheeling towards that '73 Grand Prix just ahead of you. It makes texting, reading and picking your teeth while driving an iffy proposition. My car also has a lane-holding feature, but it's kind of "lane holding lite" - more attuned to letting a driver know that he's broaching the double line, than reliably keeping the car in the lane.
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:11 PM
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Nice car, I think I'll get one in the next couple of years. I just don't want the 4 pot, sorry I just can't spend over $25k on a sedan with a 4 cylinder.


No matter how much syrup they poor over it its still a 4 pot.

I was kind of looking at the A6 since they have IMHO a better interior than the current E class, but this one is nicer inside. The only thing the current E class has over the A6 is a standard V6, Audi puts the 2.0T in the base A6's. Great motor for an A3/4 not an A6.

I like the self driving feature, it means I can drink 8 martini's at the yacht club and the car will get me home!
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No matter how much syrup they poor over it its still a 4 pot.
As long as it does what you want it to do as far as power/tq, who cares if it has 4, 7 or 12 cylinders?
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:17 PM
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Because its an expensive car, 4 cylinders do not deliver power as smoothly as a V6; also its 2016 it needs 300hp. My work truck has 305hp...I couldn't spend that kind of coin on a car with only 240ish HP.
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Because its an expensive car, 4 cylinders do not deliver power as smoothly as a V6; also its 2016 it needs 300hp. My work truck has 305hp...I couldn't spend that kind of coin on a car with only 240ish HP.
It's lighter than your truck, and how often do you use peak acceleration? Frankly, I'd rather have a 120 hp old Miata than either of the two vehicles spoken about. There's more to life than owning a muscle car.

Why does "2016" translate into "needing more whorespower than you ever use 99% of the time?"
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:36 PM
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It's lighter than your truck, and how often do you use peak acceleration? Frankly, I'd rather have a 120 hp old Miata than either of the two vehicles spoken about. There's more to life than owning a muscle car.

Why does "2016" translate into "needing more whorespower than you ever use 99% of the time?"
Because having only what you need is so granola-crunching 70's - we're in the Gordon Gecko Automotive Era relative to horsepower - too much is hardly ever enough.
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Old 01-11-2016, 03:37 PM
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It's lighter than your truck, and how often do you use peak acceleration? Frankly, I'd rather have a 120 hp old Miata than either of the two vehicles spoken about. There's more to life than owning a muscle car.

Why does "2016" translate into "needing more whorespower than you ever use 99% of the time?"
I know I don't speak for everyone here, but it is crazy fun having a million billion HP. And I kinda agree with Hatty, if I'm spending premium $$$ on a car, I better be getting something better than the little engine that they're putting in the lowely C250. Something like a hopped up V6TT or V8TT would be the ticket...

That, and I'm also Asian. And you know what they say about us - always trying to compensate.
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Rumor has it that they're first offering the I-4 as it is an existing engine, then they're going to I-6 engines as an option across the lineup, replacing the V-6 motors. Purists should be in a par-TAY mood:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2017+e+class+straight+six&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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