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Are we trying to sense instantaneous or max flow?
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either way, put a flapper or float device in the channel and have the other end indicate on a scale. (like your speedometer) If it is max you want have it ratchet. Or go electric monitoring and have continuous data.
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You're right. You don't know. Hint: if his description is accurate, it's an open channel of constant cross section, therefore constant flow speed and constant static pressure. Which has nothing to do with your drawing or Bernoulli's principle. A port placed orthogonally to the gutter won't be exposed to dynamic pressure, the only force it will "see" is atmospheric pressure, plus the weight of the water column directly above the port. Regardless of flow rate. He could attach a tube between the test port and the bottom of a glass burette and he would have a real-time indication of level. Flow would only matter if the test port was oriented directly into the flow vector. If you did that, the total pressure would be the sum of static pressure plus dynamic pressure (flow). Try this picture. The only difference is that the flow path is an enclosed tube, not an open channel: |
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That pic is incorrect. The pressure is going to be higher on the downstream, reduced dia side.
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Here's one that measures 0.5 to 5 gallons/minute: https://pvcpipesupplies.com/f-550-5-5-gpm-50-m-npt-f-55500l.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw2K3rBRDiARIsAOFSW_7VjwlxZBV7abliaVcOoNTsSrM620txN16Qcvljgv49VFYlIDsfjiAaAi lSEALw_wcB No pressure gauges needed, just an eyeball or two. |
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Are you talking about the Bernoulli diagram? It's correct, but not applicable. In a closed system with incompressible fluid, the pressure will be lower and the flow velocity higher where the path is constricted. If you're talking about the static pressure diagram that I posted, static pressure will be constant along the entire run because the flow path has uniform cross section. |
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First post said how much water. Another said depth.
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I can choose how long the water is running. I can run it for 15 seconds or 15 hours if I wish.
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I want to know the depth of the water exiting the gutter.
Installing a flapper or other metering device wouldn't give me a measurement I wanted and would interfere with the airflow.
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As stated elsewhere, I can't accurately collect the water from a specific gutter and calculate the depth.
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Can you see it? mark the side and look at the level. How much flow are we looking at?
how big is this, what sort of depth? |
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Is the flow relatively constant? I could re ask the same questions you didn't answer ....
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