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Old 11-07-2025, 03:23 PM
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UPS Crash in louisville and '79 O'Hare crash hauntingly similar

both the McDonnell Douglas MD11 and DC10 are similar designs.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ups-jet-crash-in-louisville-and-79-o-hare-crash-are-hauntingly-similar/ar-AA1PTGjw?ocid=BingNewsSerp

and then there is THIS:

https://www.faa.gov/lessons_learned/transport_airplane/accidents/N110AA

There was an american airlines mechanic who was scheduled to testify in court in Tulsa involving the court case against American Airlines. Strangely enough, the day he was to appear in court, he was found in his home and had died by "suicide".

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Old 11-07-2025, 07:52 PM
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Stevie Nicks won't need to sing about this. USPS is reformatting themselves for package delivery to turn around their financial demise. Kneecapping the competition is just biz, not personal.
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Old 11-08-2025, 05:40 PM
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Notice in the FAA report link I posted in the OP, AA was not following manufacture protocols for removing and replacing the jet engines. AA wanted to save "time" so they copied a competitor's methods and ended up causing one of the worst crashes in U.S. history. way to go AA.
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Old 11-19-2025, 11:18 PM
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both the McDonnell Douglas MD11 and DC10 are similar designs.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ups-jet-crash-in-louisville-and-79-o-hare-crash-are-hauntingly-similar/ar-AA1PTGjw?ocid=BingNewsSerp

and then there is THIS:

https://www.faa.gov/lessons_learned/transport_airplane/accidents/N110AA

There was an american airlines mechanic who was scheduled to testify in court in Tulsa involving the court case against American Airlines. Strangely enough, the day he was to appear in court, he was found in his home and had died by "suicide".

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The ONLY thing similar was the DB aircraft. A real LOSER!

NFW I'd get on another tri-star DB aircraft.
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Old 11-20-2025, 01:51 PM
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It was a maintenance issue, not a design issue. The UA DC10 crash in Sioux City was a design issue exacerbated by a maint issue. The fan blade in the tail engine failed and disintegrated. When it broke up, it compromised the hydraulic system redundancies which were located in the tail of the aircraft near the engine that failed.
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Old 11-20-2025, 02:26 PM
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The ONLY thing similar was the DB aircraft. A real LOSER!



NFW I'd get on another tri-star DB aircraft.
What is a DB aircraft?
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Old 11-20-2025, 07:59 PM
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Did y'all see the latest pics out today of the piece that actually broke? They said it was fatigue failure.
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Old 11-21-2025, 12:26 AM
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It was just a matter of time until the next tri-star jumbo jet had an engine associated structural disaster. I wasn't going to be a Russian Roulette part of another one.
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Old 11-21-2025, 01:27 AM
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Did y'all see the latest pics out today of the piece that actually broke? They said it was fatigue failure.
That engine wanted to fly solo, and took out the tail unit. Now we know.
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Old 12-02-2025, 10:46 PM
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both the McDonnell Douglas MD11 and DC10 are similar designs.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ups-jet-crash-in-louisville-and-79-o-hare-crash-are-hauntingly-similar/ar-AA1PTGjw?ocid=BingNewsSerp

and then there is THIS:

https://www.faa.gov/lessons_learned/transport_airplane/accidents/N110AA

There was an american airlines mechanic who was scheduled to testify in court in Tulsa involving the court case against American Airlines. Strangely enough, the day he was to appear in court, he was found in his home and had died by "suicide".

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Pilot error for rotating with a catastrophic event, just feet off the ground.

PIC must've not been paying attention to the magnitude of the disastrous engine loss event....
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:07 AM
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Any fool would have mashed the brake pedal and brought that plane to an instantaneous halt…
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Old 12-03-2025, 02:29 AM
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Pilot error for rotating with a catastrophic event, just feet off the ground.

PIC must've not been paying attention to the magnitude of the disastrous engine loss event....
Look at pic #1 and tell us what is wrong at that point and how the pilot would have any clue what was going to happen less than a second later. The engine did not let loose till well after rotation had occurred and there was not a damn thing he could have done at that point.
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Old 12-03-2025, 09:54 AM
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He was pretty much damned if he did and damned if he didn't.
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Old 12-03-2025, 11:48 AM
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There was no "didn't". Once you rotate (Vr) and are "flying", you fly. There is no indication that anything was failing that would make the plane unflyable. Decison to abort is made at V1 which is at flight speed but all wheels on the ground. The UPS pane was already at Vr (nose off the ground and the plane was flying) and abortion at that point would likely have ended very poorly. Once the engine detached, there was nothing anyone could do and there is nothing the pilots could have done differently to change the outcome, at leat there is no info that had been released that would put.this on the cockpit crew.

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