It must be a hight of optimism on part of those who choose to have some of it removed without knowing how big it is going to be!!

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I don't see the point in having it done....unless there's somthing i'm missing?
Do alot of you's do it for religious purposes? or because of the so called hygene problem?

Everything you ever wanted to know about the subject:
http://www.cirp.org/
A good site I found awhile ago.
I find it interesting that most of the comments here have been "against", but yet the poll is a majority "for". Go figure.

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For those who think there are "good medical reasons".....you have been SOOOOOOO brainwashed by the medico-industrial complex. The first reason used back in the eighteen hundreds was AS A PREVENTATIVE AGAINST MASTURBATION WHICH, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, CAUSES MADNESS. Hello? Really? So, that explains it. And all that money spent on razor blades for the palms.

It is unnecessary surgery. Those of you who are male and think that your son should look just like you are guilty of not protecting your son based on some incredibly narcicistic need to replicate yourself.


"If God had meant men to have foreskins, they would be born with one!"

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I MUST be mad, then! They coming to take me away ha ha, they coming to get me away ho ho... Off to the "pretty girls" thread Oh, yeah, it's spooky and scary there , nowadays....

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I am Jewish and going on 37 years old. When I was born they took a little off the top. I don't miss what I never had. I do not hold it against my folks for having it done. Don't really care one way or the other. It works quite well with out it. My fiancee does not have a problem with it. If I am messed up, it is due to numerous other reasons. Is it a money making scam? Probably. Is it "mutilation"? I think that is going a bit overboard. Do some people have a problem with it after the fact? I don't doubt it but again, I think suing mom, dad and the dr is a bit over the top.

that's my $0.02

Dummy, it makes you blind! Not mad!

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ahahahahaaha!! I know I'm me, but who are all you robots??? Damn! can't find the keyboard why is it dark?? where did all the colors go?? I'm so confused...

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1985 190D 2.2l Sold-to Brother-in-law
1996 Mustang 3.8l -"thinks it's a sports car"
1988 Grand Wagoneer - Sold (good home)
1995 Grand Cherokee Ltd -"What was I thinking??!!"

just curious to see.... for those who say it offers no health improvements and that its a scam, how many have had health training or are doctors? I find it funny how people like to say doctors are wrong when they don't have any medical training.

Perhaps a lady of experience might be able to explain why. :p

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Mine hasn't fallen off, nor has it ever had any problems. Can't see the reason why it would have needed clipping in the first place.
Sounds like a scam to simply get a few extra $$ off people.

This is a sexist thread and I move to have it banned.....Oh yeah and I'm suing :p

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"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here." Patrick Henry 1776

There is a word spelled I-A-T-R-O-G-E-N-I-C. Those of us who have learned this word (as well as another word spelled M-A-L-P-R-A-C-T-I-C-E and learned phrases like "take the pain one day at a time" or "physical therapy") as a result of visits to doctors have frequently learned to go to libraries and search medical journals just the same as a doctor or medical student might. And, hard as it might be for you to believe, some of us are good at critical thinking and research and have even had some scientific training (though it might have been more Newtonian and quantifiable than that that a medical doctor claims to have 'learned'). Call us "informed consumers".

Let's see....a superficial example of a potential path of thought:

"I'm having a son! Wow!"

"Doc says to circumcise. Ow!"

"Well, I was, so it must be right/OK/good."

"But, why was I born with one?"

"Who knows, I guess I don't need it and it's one of those vestigal evolution things, like the appendix or spleen."

"But, do we remove those?"

"Only if they get inflamed."

"So, the foreskin gets removed before it gets inflamed?"

"Yeah."

"Why?"

....Then, depending on what year it is in the country of Our Master of Play Around with Stuff Just because we can and Make Money Off of It, the answer will be:
1) Because it keeps nasty young boys from masturbating [Uh, NOT true.],
2) Because boys can't be trusted to keep it clean and it might get a disease [notice use of word "might"...and they don't usually wash behind their ears, either],
3) Because it reduces venereal disease [Oh, really? I thought that was condoms.],
4) Because it reduces risks of cervical cancer in a heterosexual man's sex partner(s) [Now disproven, some researchers finally compared cervical cancer rates in countries outside the US to those from the US. No statistically significant difference that could be linked to circumcision.]
5) Because he might have to get it done later. [again, note use of word "might" and then, my next question would be "Why might he have to get it done later? You mean IF he gets an infection? Exactly how common are these foreskin-threatening infections, anyhow?]


You know, if I am confronted with so many vague and totally unrelated possible "reasons" for doing something, my usual response is to think that the person giving me the reasons actually hasn't thought it through or just totally has their head up their butt.


PS: Most women I know who have (ahem) experienced both cut and uncut prefer the uncut. Peekaboo games, less friction for her, greater sensivity in the guy, etc., etc. The one woman I know who preferred cut was squeemish in so many ways that I am not surprised she was squeemish in that one, too. Victim of advertising.

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An interesting conversation about circumcision and clitorectomy that I encountered a while back:

Woman: A foreskin is disgusting, a hygiene nightmare, must be removed.

Man: A clitoris is unnecessary so far as my needs are concerned, it is a mistake of nature, must be removed.

Woman: Absolutely not!

Man: Why do you advocate for removing part of the male genitals but protest so much over the same process for the female? The clitoris adds nothing whatsoever in terms of ability to become pregnant and give birth.

Woman: It is a critical part of my body, an integral part of who I am.

Man: So you are asserting that the foreskin is not regarded in the same way by a male?

Woman: No answer.

Man: One other thing: When the little girl's clitoris is removed (a clitorectomy), no anesthesia will be used. She'll be treated the same as the males: both arms and legs will be strapped to the Circumstraint(TM).

Woman: No response. Seems distraught and enraged at the image.

Hmmm, dude, better ask Marta her opinion before you go to Poland!!!

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