Gun Owners Thread

[bjcsc]

Originally posted by narwhal
bjsc: you should check out the P239--very close to as thin as the PPK. What's the story about that .22? I love it.

When I bought it I was actually in the market for a lever action in 45LC (Uberti makes a nice one with a case hardened receiver, straight stock, etc). I load my own 30.06, .357, and 45LC so I thought it would be nice to have a rifle in the same caliber as the Ruger. Anyway, my girlfirends father had given her a Marlin Mod. 60 and we had a lot of fun shooting it so I decided I would get a .22 and shoot all day with her for $10 in ammo. Once I saw the big lever the decision was made. It's a great shooter, easy to point up and well balanced. You can see it has an exposed hammer, which I also like, but a good feature (related to the PPK warning) is that you can pull the hammer back to a half cock position which isolates it from the firing pin and locks the trigger.

[Pete Geither]

You're not on the "pipe".

[moparmike]

Gee, I wonder what our British brothers and sisters think of this gun madness. Any of you guys shot any family members or knocked-over any likker stores lately?

Only on days ending in 'y'. :p


I wouldnt do that. Not a liquor store anyway. Maybe a Federal Reserve Bank, but I would have to blow up a subway and terrorize a large metropolis to do that. That sort of thing takes lots of henchmen who speak German, and planning.

[Botnst]

Originally posted by Botnst
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Gee, I wonder what our British brothers and sisters think of this gun madness. Any of you guys shot any family members or knocked-over any likker stores lately?

Botnst

Well Bot, glad you asked and here's your answer. Turns out some wacky member of the shadow gov thinks English gun laws are stupid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3545305.stm

Botnst

[mzsmbs]

Originally posted by Volkl42
Who out there owns a firearm? What do you own? Feel free to share any history or pics

Wouldn't you like to know. Volkl42, you didn't get beat by a dead man in Iowa, did ya? I will be more than glad to share my guns with ya, so come on by. If the pit doesn't get you then you'll find out about my arsenal. lol

I enjoy hunting deer but only with a bow and arrow anymore. It is so much more fun and they just ain't as skeered.

I have been thinking of getting a S&W Ultrilite (.32)-protection; and also considering Ruger RedHawk (.45) for some deer hunting; don't really enjoy lugging all that iron around. If any of you have any experience with those or similar please comment.

Ok, OK, I'll bite a little: my first gun, the .22 rifle, is still a joy to shoot after all these years allthough a new contender is emerging in Winchester M94 .45colt.

Botnst, tell me more about reloading. Is it worth it? Did you enjoy doing it? Big hassle?....?

[Botnst]

I started with a Lee Loader back when I was a teen and reloaded for my Marlin .30/30 and my 20 ga. I learned how be be very careful measuring powder and storing primers. I didn't do any serious damage, but I did dumb things a couple times like spilling some powder (with a Lee, measured volumetrically) and just sort of guessing how much spilled or scooping it off the table into the cartridge or shell.

Later I bought an RCBS reloader for the .30/30 and then another set of dies for the .270. Also bought a good balance. I fell in with bad company (a couple of university profs who were experimentalists) and began loading the .270 for squirrels using a 100 gr (I think, may have been 110gr) hand-cast and waxed pure lead bullets with a light-loaded cartrdige with fast pistol powder. We used pure lea on the theory that the bullet would spatter on contact rather than carry. The report was much quieter. The bullet was inaccurate as hell after 100 yds, but who shoots squirrels at 100 yds?--not me. Its probably illegal using a centerfire rifle outside of deer season. But its a heck of a fine way to sharpen your aim with a big rifle, ceaply and pain-free. I also reloaded for deer and doves.

I reloaded until I went in the USN and then picked-up the nasty habit for a few years after until matrimonial bliss and harmony overwhelmed good sense and bachelorhood.

If your seriously interested I highly recommend finding some other folks who reload, especially for the same type of shooting you enjoy. The folks I've known over the years who were reloaders woul do anything for a novice--even loan'em presses and dies and stuff. It's a hobby that hates a full wallet.

Its probably like making beer--you'll never actually save much money but you'll have complete control over what you want.

Botnst

[Snibble]

Originally posted by w126
The one to my right is a 1976 Plymouth Duster 225 slant 6, the blue is a 1968 Chrysler Newport.

Al Bundy, who'd dat?

Al Bundy... played by Ed O'neil on Fox's old "Married With Children"... He had an old dodge POS which he thought was the best car in the world.

[Botnst]

Originally posted by PaulC
You were using a .270 to shoot squirrels? I hope stopping power was adequate. Personally, I wouldn't even approach a squirrel with anything less than a 7mm Mag. If you don't put them down on the first shot, they'll charge you and scurry up your pants leg.

The worst is when they charge, then you gotta aim for the bridge of the nose. And they have sharp teeth. Vicious beasts.
May need the Holy Grenade of Antioch, should they get too enraged.

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/grail-21.htm

Botnst

[Botnst]

ARTHUR: Consult the Book of Armaments!

BROTHER MAYNARD: Armaments, chapter two, verses nine to twenty-one.

SECOND BROTHER: And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy.'

And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu--

MAYNARD: Skip a bit, Brother.

SECOND BROTHER: And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'

[moparmike]

King: Roit. 1....2....5!

: 3 sir.

King: Oh, roight... 3!

[mzsmbs]

oh, it's been way to long. might have to rent that one again soon.



Botnst,

thanks for the info. I mainly plink and hunt. Was justing thinking of maybe doing it mainly in dead of winter...I have to many damn hobbies allready. Sap hasn't been running well this year but I've been looking into bee keeping and that's besides all the automobile work that needs to be done....

oh, you guys crack me up with the squirely stuff...

I don't own any guns, but hope to someday.

[R Leo]

Originally posted by Botnst


Its probably like making beer--you'll never actually save much money but you'll have complete control over what you want.

More importantly, if you 'roll your own,' you'll be able to practice with something less than the full-house, test-of-manhood loads that are sold over the counter. Elmer Keith once said: "You might just learn something about shooting a pistol when you're hip-deep in brass." No truer words were ever spoken. IMHO, If I'd had to shoot factory loads instead of the gazillions of downloaded practice rounds that have been expended through my Blackhawk and GP-100, I'd have a doggone flinch they'd write books about.

[wolf_walker]

Ahh.. let's see..

the wee .22 bolt marlin, it's comeing up on 50 years old now, was fathers when he was a kid. Still shoots good.

Have a Yugo SKS I bought off a friend and never shoot because they screwed up a perfectly good rifle with that grenade gas switch crap. The thick stock and rubber pad are nice though.

Have my 58 Romanian SKS, heart of my heart, I've been everywhere with that rifle. I have over three thousand rounds through it personaly, lord knows how many previously. One, count em, One, FTF. Reliable.

Mosin-Nagant M-44, Russian, bought new in wrap. A blast to shoot, in every way, shape and form. The fireball at night is impressive, booms like a cannon, kicks like a mule. I love it, and it's pretty accurate too. It'll keep up with a nice finn M-39 of a friends out to about 200 yards. It's also the quickets to shoulder little rifle I've ever had.

I finally bought a Mauser awhile ago, 8mm, Nazi proofs, K-98, some 194x date I think. It impressed the heck out of me, such balance, shoots so smoothly, just everything about it compared to the Mosin-Nagants, there just so polished.. Great rifle. I want another one to drill and tap for a scope.

Had a few pistols, just not a pistol kinda guy I guess, I have cutlery for close work.



If you ever get a chance, shoot a full metal gallon paint can with a high caliber FMJ round, HP or not. First time I shot the K-98 was about 75 yards into a paint can, that was very impressive, opended it up flat, paint thirty feet in the air, it was great..

[bjcsc]

Originally posted by R Leo
More importantly, if you 'roll your own,' you'll be able to practice with something less than the full-house, test-of-manhood loads that are sold over the counter.

That's close to why I reload. I originally thought I would save a lot of money, especially on the 30.06, but what happened is that I just shoot more. So I guess it's how you look at it, but I'm not saving any money. The real advantage, that I discovered after beginning to reload, is that you can really dial a cartridge in to your weapon. On my Garand, the most accurate load was slighlty less powerful than the commercial cartidges. Every one I make is exactly the same so I know exactly where it's going to go, resulting in tremendous accuracy.