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moparmike · #31 03-14-2004, 06:57 AM

I would like to get into handloading. 10mm and 8mm* is too damned expensive, and American made 8mm is anemic, to put it succinctly. 8mm is supposed to be .30-06 on 'roids. 8mm here is loaded at about 2300fps, and 2900fps is considered average for Euro spec. It basically boils down to American cartridge manufacturers thinking that us Yanks are stupid enough to put a big bullet in a smaller gun, so they load it lighter so it wont blow up.**

*For the un-initiated, 10mm is a handgun cartridge, 8mm is a rifle cartridge used mainly in Europe.

**8mm pre-1900 was .318 caliber, afterwards it moved to .323. Dont ask me why, it just did. *shrug*

wolf_walker · #32 03-14-2004, 01:40 PM

True on the 8mm. Most of my plinking 8mm I have to un-link from MG belts.. And it's still not just dirt cheap..

I'd like to handload one day.

I'd also like to be able to afford the first real rifle I ever shot, an M-14, but that day is yet to get here..

Botnst · #33 03-14-2004, 01:59 PM

I'm with you on the M-14, Wolf_Walker. Its the rifle I qualified on in the USN. Also qualified on the .45. I'd like to have one of those, too.

Someday.

Botnst

bjcsc · #34 03-14-2004, 09:29 PM

M-14's are great. I feel sorry for all the guys that had to trade them in for the M-16A1's back when they made the switch; it must have been tough. I have read that the Marines were very unhappy switching to .223.

My buddy and I plan on loading for his Arisaka (7.7mm) and Mauser (8mm) this summer. I suppose he'll save some serious $$ on those two. We've been making the cases for the Arisaka out of 30.06 cases, reforming them and trimming the length to spec. So far so good...

moparmike · #35 03-14-2004, 09:50 PM

Make sure that you find out if those cases need annealing. Dont want any split case necks...

MikeTangas · #36 03-14-2004, 09:52 PM

A select fire M-14 is the only full auto rifle I haven't been able to control the climb. By the third round I was off the paper and working my way up the berm.

If I had a little more free time maybe I would take up some rifle competition. I can still get a M-14 issued to me for competition purposes...but not a select fire version

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#37 03-16-2004, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Volkl42
Supposedly tri-action is accurate like single action, with the light trigger, but quicker like double.

How is double quicker than single? That doesnt make sense to me...

For what its worth, I have a Beretta Centurion 40., Taurus PT-92 9mm (pre-ban 15 round, stainless steel), and a Smith & Wesson 422

Jim Dandy · #38 03-16-2004, 02:25 AM

There is not enough bandwidth for me to post what I have, but suffice it to say, my house is very well-armed and well-stocked with Title II weapons, Title I firearms, ammunition, reloading equipment, reloading supplies, and gunsmithing tools. I have a Form 4 for a suppressor that I'm getting ready to mail as soon as I get the sheriff's signature.

bjcsc · #39 03-16-2004, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by DTM FAN
How is double quicker than single? That doesnt make sense to me...

Because it only involves one action for the shooter - squeezing the trigger.

wolf_walker · #40 03-16-2004, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by MikeTangas
A select fire M-14 is the only full auto rifle I haven't been able to control the climb. By the third round I was off the paper and working my way up the berm.

If I had a little more free time maybe I would take up some rifle competition. I can still get a M-14 issued to me for competition purposes...but not a select fire version .

That was one of the problems with it, basicaly useless short of what people call surpresing fire, and I call wasteing ammo, usually. Though you could drop the strap from the rear, extend it out, and stand on it to hold the front of the rifle down..

The one I learned on was a genuine stuff in a bag and take home from a Marine sometime around Korea. It's gone now, offered them two grand for it and they wouldnt sell. Probibly would have ended up in prison with my luck. But it was a beauty, once in a lifetime.

If'n I was going to shoot military comp, it'd be with a springfield.
I know a guy that collects them(and garand/m-14's(1A). Great rifles..

I've gotten pretty fond of that old K98 though, especialy cheap as it is. Kinda like an old Mercedes diesel, you can't hardly buy a rifle today as well made, but there just not worth a lot monitarily. Suits me..

#41 03-16-2004, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by bjcsc
Because it only involves one action for the shooter - squeezing the trigger.

I thouhgt single action involved only one action. I thought double action involved pulling the trigger the entire length needed to pull back and drop the hammer as well. Much like a revolver that doesnt have the hammer pulled back. Its a longer pull. Sindle action is when the hammer is already pulled back, you just pull the trigger enough to drop the hammer....

bjcsc · #42 03-16-2004, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by DTM FAN
I thouhgt single action involved only one action. I thought double action involved pulling the trigger the entire length needed to pull back and drop the hammer as well. Much like a revolver that doesnt have the hammer pulled back. Its a longer pull. Sindle action is when the hammer is already pulled back, you just pull the trigger enough to drop the hammer....

You've got it right. But remember single/double action refers to the action of the weapon, not you. Double action means the trigger cocks and releases the hammer, single action means it only releases it. Thus a single action weapon requires you to first pull the hammer back, then to squeeze the trigger to release it (two actions on your part).

mzsmbs · #43 03-24-2004, 12:36 AM

I forgot to ask one more question: how many times can the casings be reused?

It does sound like it may be worth my while especially if I do get more bankg for my buck.

thanx

Botnst · #44 03-24-2004, 01:02 AM

Depends on how hot you load them. Loaded hot, they stretch and you trim them shorter. That sequence thins the casing wall. That's a bad thing, especially for hot loads. Also, don't resize them unless bs necessary. They get perfectly resized for the chamber when fired. Resizing will increase metal fatigue. If you buy new brass you should resize it otherwise it may jamb, especially if you use an autoloader.

Man, I don't remember how many the mfr say. In fact, I don't recall tossing used brass of mine. I think on very low power loads (squirrels/.270) I never quit reloading them until I quit reloading.

In 10-15 years I'm going to retire to the country, raise chickens and spit tobacco juice on my shirt. Reloading sounds like a hobby I could get into again. I've always wanted to own one of those hot sub .22 centerfire rifles. Any of you guys shot one?

B

axlechassis · #45 03-24-2004, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Botnst

I've always wanted to own one of those hot sub .22 centerfire rifles. Any of you guys shot one?

B

You mean a .177? I've only seen a custom made one. I'm waiting for ruger to make a 10-22 in the caliber.

Have you seen the Barrett M82A1? now there's a dandy little plinker
http://www.barrettrifles.com/