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Old 07-11-2005, 10:28 AM
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Smile Drivers Seat Problems 1992 300E 4Matic

My drivers seat will not move. I bought and replaced seat positioning switch (with memory) which did nothing. I would be satisfied if I could just move the seat to some upright position and use cushions.

Does anyone know how to remove the seat? I have looked extensively underneath and do not have a clue how to do this.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

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Old 07-12-2005, 12:29 AM
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Was there any power at the switch ?

The seat needs to move all the way rearward...pry off rail covers and undo bolts to floor through the seat guide rails.
Move seat forward for access to rear rail bolts.
Tilt seat to the rear to access the power plug under the seat

Of course, this is all academic if the seat has no power.

There are two relays in the relay holder to power the seats and windows.
Do your windows roll up and down ?


I presume you have checked and cleaned all the fuses ? Some of the fuses are made of aluminium....these corrode and lose power.....buy the copper ones from MB.


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Old 07-12-2005, 07:28 AM
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THANK YOU for your reply!!

I have not tested the switch.

What kind of power should I see there?
What poles do I need to cross with Voltmeter to get a reading.

Set is reared back so that I cannot access the rear bolts to remove seat.

Power windows do work. Power door locks do not.

When I got the car (1 month ago) I replaced all fuses in the fusebox in front of the driver seat in the rear of the engine compartment. Are there any other fuses I need to replace?

What relays need replaced? Can you give me the number on top of them? How do I test them?
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:47 PM
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THANK YOU for your reply!!

I have not tested the switch.

What kind of power should I see there?
What poles do I need to cross with Voltmeter to get a reading.

Cannot give you details of pins, but there must be at least one with 12 volts.

Set is reared back so that I cannot access the rear bolts to remove seat.


Power windows do work. Power door locks do not.

If windows roll up/down then usually you can say the relays are okay.
have not found MB relays to be a problem as a rule.


When I got the car (1 month ago) I replaced all fuses in the fusebox in front of the driver seat in the rear of the engine compartment. Are there any other fuses I need to replace?

The auxillary relay/fuse box is back of the box under the windshield, lid has 4 screws.
There are two fuses in there at the back. These are for the anti theft warning system....ck them anyway. Some of them interact with the door switches.

The relays for the seats are :K6, seat/window adjustment. Protected by fuses #E and F. and A...which I am not sure....front right I think....as I said, unusual to have relay problems.

Just remembered...does the steering colomn adjustment work ? Same power source.....Ck fuses 2 and 9. If this does not work the seat memory control may be bad. This is under the seat. I have changed two of these over the last few years.


What relays need replaced? Can you give me the number on top of them? How do I test them?

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Cannot give you details of pins, but there must be at least one with 12 volts.

** I will test switch to find if 12 volts.

The auxillary relay/fuse box is back of the box under the windshield, lid has 4 screws.
There are two fuses in there at the back. These are for the anti theft warning system....ck them anyway. Some of them interact with the door switches.
**I have replaced these fuses also.

does the steering colomn adjustment work ?
Yes
Same power source.....Ck fuses 2 and 9.
**both of these were replaced but I will check again!

If this does not work the seat memory control may be bad. This is under the seat. I have changed two of these over the last few years.
**What is cost of the memory unit?

I will get back to you after I perform the above.
Thank You for your help!!
Bob
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Old 07-12-2005, 03:59 PM
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Here is what I found when I tested the wires coming to the drivers seat switch:

First of all there are 2 connectors:

1.Connector 020 545 98 28
On a vertical plane and has 3 wires connected to it:
White/Red
Brown (in center)
White/Brown

I was not sure which was negative or positive but I assumed the center was the ground (also on other switch wires below)
A). The White/Red was the topmost wire
1). Using the center as negative I got a maximum of 350 mV
2). Using the center as positive I got a maximum of -400mV
B). The White/Brown wire was below the center post
1). Using the center as negative I got a maximum of 5 Volts
2). Using the center as positive I got a maximum of -5 Volts

2. Connector 020 545 97 28
On a Horizontal plane and has 3 wires connected to it:
White/Green (closest to front of door)
Grey (in center)
White/Yellow (closest to rear of door)

Again, I was not sure which was negative or positive but I assumed the center was the ground.
A). White/Green wire
1). Using the center as negative I got a maximum 5 Volts
2). Using the center as positive I got a maximum of -5 Volts
B). White/Yellow wire
1). Using the center as negative I got a maximum of 5 Volts
2). Using the center as positive I got a maximum of -5 Volts

Checked fuses E, F, A in Fuse box all were ok
Checked fuses 2 & 9 in Fuse box both were ok

Again, thanks for all your help!!
Bob
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:23 PM
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Bob if you want to move the seat forward or back you can do this by powering up the motor at the seat. If your car has a seat memory the wires are purple and the other is blue . The motor is a DC motor which if you change your pos. and neg the motor will reverse. So make yourself two jumper wires ,one black about 14 gauge and the other red same gauge but put a 20 amp fuse into this wire. Now all you have to do is hot wire the motor. If it goes the wrong way just reverse the wires. hope this will help Dale
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:15 PM
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Bob you can move the seat back or ahead with jumper wires to the motor wires. If the seat has a memory the wire colours are purple and other is blue. Power one neg and other pos . If the seat moves wrong direction reverse your jumper wires. If seat doesn`t move them you found your problem. Dale

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