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Old 03-04-2006, 12:18 PM
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Breathing new lifein the 190E 2.6 (1992)

I've postponed repairs until this recent inspection - the 190E passed, so other repairs will be invested.

I have the Mercedes Manual for the 201 chassis. It seems to be missing a section on Timing Chain replacement.

How big a job is the chain and guides to replace?

For other assorted reasons, I will be removing the radiator. While I'm in there I figured the chain is an option

Dirt, grease, and bruised knuckles are ok with me. My fear is touching the chain and never having the car run again.

I do plan to attach the new chain to the old and "pull it through".

The water pump and belt are in my project plan. What else should I address while in there with a 215,000-mile car?

Thank you so much.

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Old 03-04-2006, 12:53 PM
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Why are you replacing your timing chain?

M103 engines virtually never require a timing chain replacement.
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Old 03-04-2006, 01:19 PM
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That annoying noise

On cold morning, there is that rattle, then silent running.

I was told once the noise was fuel injectors leaking, but I didn't believe.

Just figure it's the traditional stretched timing chain noise.

Is there another test I should conduct?
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'86 560SL (186K) - Now a 'classic' : Registered as an Historic Vehicle
02 E430 in the stable
'14 LS460 (Lexus)
- - - - -
'95 E420 (198K) found a new home
'99 E320 (80K) (gave it's life for me as we hit a bumper)
'95 E420 (231K) Sold to a happy buyer, new to Mercedes
'90 300E (65K) Sold to an Mercedes Lover
'92 190E (215K) - retired to the salvage yard
'93 500SEL (214K) - Moved to another family, still runs like a young pup
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Old 03-04-2006, 01:32 PM
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I believe that the timing chain tensioner fails before the timing chain. I'm no expert though.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:31 PM
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oh - so I could just replace the tensioners?

I'm not looking to make big changes, just do what's right to keep the car on the road.

I do enjoy the small size and have fun.

The book suggsts I need to remove the cover, then just unbolt the tentioners

is that an option - then I guess I could inspect the chain for wear, and replace if needed.

I'm also planning some valve stem seal replacement - quart lasts 500 miles.
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02 E430 in the stable
'14 LS460 (Lexus)
- - - - -
'95 E420 (198K) found a new home
'99 E320 (80K) (gave it's life for me as we hit a bumper)
'95 E420 (231K) Sold to a happy buyer, new to Mercedes
'90 300E (65K) Sold to an Mercedes Lover
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Old 03-04-2006, 03:23 PM
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Is it a rattle or a clacking? Rattle could be the belt tensioner damper, although that would be present whenever you're idling. Clacking that goes away when the oil pressure comes up could be a lifter that leaks down when the engine is off.
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