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Old 05-23-2013, 01:33 PM
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Why are diesel/LPG penalized? Over here they are praised for their economy. (They USED to be economical.) And the American Revolution II would start if any stupid government started charging $1100 to $1700 per year in "road tax". You Europeans need to grow some cajones and just say "NO"
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LPG and diesel are considered to be "business user" fuels. You are expected to drive about 25,000 km per year plus - the average here is about 12,000 to 15,000 per year so you need to go a bit further than most to make the extra road tax pay.

As for just say "NO" they'd only tax something else to make it pay. The government has gotten used to a certain amount - it won't take a pay cut. Also as an Englishman I don't get the vote - but to be honest even if I did have the vote my little "NO" wouldn't change the system. Back in the UK I think it would cost about 200 GBP per year for road tax for either the W210 or the W140.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:38 PM
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LPG and diesel are considered to be "business user" fuels. You are expected to drive about 25,000 km per year plus - the average here is about 12,000 to 15,000 per year so you need to go a bit further than most to make the extra road tax pay.

As for just say "NO" they'd only tax something else to make it pay. The government has gotten used to a certain amount - it won't take a pay cut. Also as an Englishman I don't get the vote - but to be honest even if I did have the vote my little "NO" wouldn't change the system. Back in the UK I think it would cost about 200 GBP per year for road tax for either the W210 or the W140.
do the dutch gov'mint smoke something special?
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:51 PM
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do the dutch gov'mint smoke something special?
The Dutch economic system makes no sense to me.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:34 PM
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they need to lay easy on the smoke machines

btw if you get a W140 - you would be having a ball of a time because there is so much to take apart in them. imagine it like there are 3 W123 hidden in one body.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:56 AM
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they need to lay easy on the smoke machines

btw if you get a W140 - you would be having a ball of a time because there is so much to take apart in them. imagine it like there are 3 W123 hidden in one body.
Well I have a W123 300D with virtually no options so I guess there are about 7 of my W123s in a nicely spec'd W140.

The prices for the W140s seem to start at about 3000 euros for something with mega miles that obviously needs help - the driver's seats seem to take a beating from people climbing in and out. There are, however, several W140s for sale at the moment with low miles (actually kms here!) in really nice condition for about 10,000 euros. Quite a lot of car for the money...
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:09 AM
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Well I have a W123 300D with virtually no options so I guess there are about 7 of my W123s in a nicely spec'd W140.

The prices for the W140s seem to start at about 3000 euros for something with mega miles that obviously needs help - the driver's seats seem to take a beating from people climbing in and out. There are, however, several W140s for sale at the moment with low miles (actually kms here!) in really nice condition for about 10,000 euros. Quite a lot of car for the money...
I see you love to take things apart and see how they work. In all honesty if you take apart a W140 you will appreciate the threepointed star marque.

Its put together like nothing else. That is why when you are wafting along in it at over 200 km/h the cabin is so silent that you can easily hear your inner voice. Makes up for "I honestly didnt know how fast I was going officer" - its true.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:25 PM
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I see you love to take things apart and see how they work. In all honesty if you take apart a W140 you will appreciate the threepointed star marque.

Its put together like nothing else. That is why when you are wafting along in it at over 200 km/h the cabin is so silent that you can easily hear your inner voice. Makes up for "I honestly didnt know how fast I was going officer" - its true.
Well I've got to try that!
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