Lovecraft is the worst single system out there that has hacked up many classic Benz's, in fact everyone they ever worked on! Destroyed engines, totalled cars stalling out on the freeway hit by other drivers and very poor quality parts! Metal shavings in the fuel from careless hacks eating up the IP's and beautiful cars with great bodies lined up in wrecking yards because of Lovecraft Biofuels!

The only ones who made out here were Lovecraft price gougers for shoddy work and the attorneys that followed representing the poor unsuspecting customers who were ripped off for thousands!

And these were their good points!

Ummm, won't it also ensure that you aren't running on cold oil - even at startup (assuming they heat the oil "instantly" as stated in the quoted message posted by ForcedInduction)?

As for undoing the damage, has anybody around here ever tried AutoRX oil treatment? On the Ford Diesel boards I've seen numerous people swear up and down that it really does what it claims - which is to unstick/decoke rings and reduce blowby dramatically.

I'm giving it a try on my old F250, which has a fair amount of blowby - more than I care for anyway....

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1984 300 Coupe TurboDiesel
Silver blue paint over navy blue interior
2nd owner & 2nd engine in an otherwise
99% original unmolested car
~210k miles on the clock

1986 Ford F250 4x4 Supercab
Charcoal & blue two tone paint over burgundy interior
Banks turbo, DRW, ZF-5 & SMF conversion
152k on the clock - actual mileage unknown

That would only ensure the oil is hot before going into the cylinder.
It would do nothing for the injector pump that still has to pump cold,
thick oil.

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81 Mercedes 300SD 289k.......SOLD
82 Mercedes 300CD 252k......slow ride

82 mercedes 300 SD...mi Unknown
83 Mercedes 300D ????ksniff..gone too
84 Mercedes 300D 148k........SOLD
85 Mercedes 300TD 386k and holding some one elses project

I was reading this entertaining thread and no, I don't have the Lovecrap system but I did have a thought. The biggest problem with the Lovecrap system is starting it on cold veggie which leaves carbon deposits. Well after a while the internal temp of the engine gets very hot and if you run your diesel as hard as I do such as on the freeway or up long hills, wouldn't that blow away any of those deposits? Also what risk would there be if you used this one-tank system but blended veggie with some diesel to thin it out? Would the risks be less? Just curious...

Nooo he didnt! he didnt drag this thread up again! last post was over two months ago >.<!

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As long as they would add one additional commandment for you to keep thy religion to thyself.
George Carlin (Wonder where he is now..)

1981 240d (engine donor 1983 240d) recently rebuilt engine hurray! - No more.. fought a tree and the tree won.

pearl black 1983 240d 4speed (Converted!@$$%) atleast the tranny was rebuilt.

The biggest problems with lovecrap are the very low quality of their "filter" (actually just a metal water strainer with a mesh sock zip-tied over it), the low heat transfer of said low quality filter (it has been measured to get the oil up to about 110*f, much lower than the 160*f min.), the very low value ($450+labor for a cr@ppy filter, an electric pump and fuel/coolant hose) and starting and running on cold oil.

If a "conversion" uses an electric transfer/lift pump to aid the stock lift pump, its a very good sign the kit builder does not know what they are doing.

Except the VO that has contaminated the engine oil from poor combustion.

There is no such thing as a good one tank "conversion". You should invest in a proper two-tank system instead of shortcutting.

Where's Cartman when you need him. Somebody needs to lock this guy in the basement.

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No need to lock anyone in the basement...I'm on your side on this debate. I know it's better to search existing threads to contribute to rather than start up a new thread on an old subject already covered.

Anyway, I also think their system is crap (lovecrap) but I was more interested in what happens after the oil heats up. I never knew about the veggie contaminating the engine oil. I had a 2-tank greasecar kit in my old 300D which worked great and ran pretty hot before switching the mixture. I don't believe in counting on electricity to heat the oil when you have coolant heat as a waste by-product that can do the job with reliability. I met Brian, former douchebag owner of Lovecrap and he didn't impress me in the least.

It really is amusing reading this thread. Also a google of Lovecraft also reveals some very interesting threads.
It seems to me that running on SVO isnt a good idea even with the 2-tank system.
To me, the Mercedes 123/126 vehicles are close to sacred. The drivetrain is the best mass produced passenger drivetrain in the history of automobiles. It seems sacriligious to butcher it with a two tank system. Lifting the hood and seeing all that mess is like seeing a picture of Jesus in full hip-hop clothing with a sideways ballcap and untied adidas.
If your going through all the trouble for a two tank system, why not just make biodiesel? Keep the temple relatively stock (Otto and Gunther did a pretty good job on the original car) and setup a bio system in your garage?
If I worked in a restaraunt and saw a SVO guy come in.....Id probably spit in your food.

beenie-Biodiesel is great for te old MBs-IF (big IF) you rememeber to replace the fuel lines with bio freindly rubber and chamge your tank strainer out.

The big issue with homebrew biodiesel is that three things can happen
#1 All goes well and you have nice batch of biodiesel
#2 You F up a little bit and have a large batch of Lye soap
#3 You F up a lot and the metnonol poisions you or a spark blows up you & your house and neighboors house.

Ask any firgfighter on thr recent rash of Biodiesel incidents, or do a google search on nationwide biodiesel home brew"incidents" due to junior alchemists and high fuel prices.

One fire chief said that problems and calls with Home Bo-brewers are now outnumbering meth labs.

Marybeth; I agree 100%.
1) I ALWAYS mix my methanol OUTSIDE away from the house no matter what the weather and I use the slow dissolve method rather than a high speed mixer. I just dont like to handle the mixture roughly.
2) I try to only buy the methanol I will use with my 50 gallon batch. I dont like to have the stuff sitting around my house or biz.

People need to research the process thoroughly and always respect the chemicals used. I am always a little scared when I prepare the methanol mixture and I hope I always am.

Back to Lovecraft; I love the story of the woman who bought a car from them and it blew up within 15 miles of her getting it. She had it towed to Lovecraft and she found the owner in back under the hood of a car sucking on a bong! PRICELESS!
He had the nerve to tell her she would get her money back when he sold her car.

I think that one guy did more to hurt the svo neighborhood that any other single source.

lye isnt something to joke at either..

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Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?

As long as they would add one additional commandment for you to keep thy religion to thyself.
George Carlin (Wonder where he is now..)

1981 240d (engine donor 1983 240d) recently rebuilt engine hurray! - No more.. fought a tree and the tree won.

pearl black 1983 240d 4speed (Converted!@$$%) atleast the tranny was rebuilt.

You should have seen him on the Lovecrap forum. If some of you think I can be an @sshole, he would put me to shame. He banned me from his forum more times than I can remember until the new management took over.

In addition if anyone wrote anything he didn't like the post mysteriously disappeared!

Hopefully, I'm over it now.

I recently purchased a 1992 300SD and had Lovecraft convert it. It was done on Monday, and here I am reading the forum and asking "Holy crap, what did I just do to my car?" Since Monday, I've put maybe 180 miles on the car with about 20 gallons of new soybean oil. I don't think it's had pure soybean oil, as it had about 1/4 tank of diesel when I put the first 5 gallons in, then tonight, after reading some of the comments, I went and put 5 gallons of diesel in it.

So now what? If I need to eat it and chalk it up to experience, I'm okay with that, I messed up, I learned. But is it too late already? If I just don't run any more vegetable oil, is that enough, or should I remove the system and put the original parts back in the original places?

Yep, I'm really beginning to think I made a big mistake.