"Maybe a flat annual road tax of a few $100 should be required of any vehicle not using taxed road fuel. That would buy you a little sticker that would allow the use of any alternative fuels without additional taxes."


Brilliant idea.

I remembered that.

What I meant was... WVO is vegetable oil recovered from a restaurant.

Biodiesel is vegetable oil recovered from a restaurant with a few chemicals added and drained back out... very similar to just throwing some Power Service in with normal diesel, for all practical taxation purposes.

So how do you make WVO legal without making WVO+Methanol+Lye+Wash Water legal?

That's like saying #2 is legal but Power Service is illegal. You can't say that the latter is significantly different from the former.

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

As a resident of Washington state. I have one concern to voice that is more important to me than tax free wvo on road use. Washington state has invested a large amount of money into biodiesel production. Unfortunately the legislature have passed a law to adopt Californian emissions. I would like to see a law passed that states that if there are no cars/trucks that meet Californian emission standards for diesels that are for private(not bound to commercial use only) the state revert to federal emissions standards for diesel vehicles sold in the state.

As for tax free use of WVO if some one wants to testify they should point out that Washington benefits from Washington state businesses that make conversion kits such as FRYBRID http://www.frybrid.com . Also they should point out that running WVO is recycling at its highest form due to little or no byproduct. As long as the VO has been used once were are getting double the usage out of it.

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white 79 300SD 200K'ish miles "Farfegnugen" (RIP - cracked crank)
desert storm primer 63 T-bird "The Undead" (long term hibernation)

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Licensing, insuring, regulation and taxation.

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I have to give credit where credit it due.

And the idea that we have paid road tax on fuel that we use in our lawnmowers came from Whiskeydan also.

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NC law RE: tractors, combines, etc. don't require a license plate, inspection or highway legal fuel. ONLY that the tractor has rubber tires (solid or pneumatic). ANY vehicle registered in NC requiring plate, inspection and insurance is highway tax liable.

The small trucks used to move cargo trailers in a freight yard (sometimes called "yard birds" or "yard dogs") CAN use off road fuel but only off road.

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Raleigh NC - Home of deep fried sushi!

Some folks just REFUSE to learn the term "fly under the radar."

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1987 300D (230,000 mi on a #14 head-watching the temp gauge and keeping the ghost in the machine)
Raleigh NC - Home of deep fried sushi!

Here is one simple way of figuring out your mileage. You sign a paper that says you HAVE to maintain a working odometer and you go to the DMV to report it. You have a sticker in your window. Should a cop pull you over and see it, he checks your odometer. If it is not working, you leave the car there and have it towed to repair the odometer and get a ticket.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Cars over 20 years old are working-odometer-exempt (at least in Nevada).

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'82 Chevy Chevette diesel

How does he verify its working? Hop in for a quick ride?

The simple version:

If WVO is legal, biodiesel is legal because it is the same thing.

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

The States of Arkansas, Illinois, and I believe WI have all passed laws exempting WVO users from having to pay State Road Use Taxes. I have heard that Texas has also done that as well ... can you believe the OIL state of Texas has been liberal enough to exempt WVOers from paying road use taxes. Lets see now Texas and Taxes did I misspell something same number of letters just in a different order.
People who use Propane to run their vehicles pay in some states an annual sticker tax to cover their road use. I mentioned this to my legislators but they thought we needed exemption.

For Things to Change, YOU need to change.

Tractor Trailers do most of the damage to our roads not cars and that is the industry that Forced Induction is in and probably why he is such a stickler on WVO being illegal.

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Gary
OBK #37

Incorrect. Reread.

"fly under the radar" and "comply with the law" are two incompatible ideas.

Very true, that is the dilemma, how do you exempt WVO and homemade BD from road tax while other folks are paying road tax on commercial BD? That is not fair to anyone.

I still think the best solution would be a flat annual tax that would allow that specific vehicle to use any alternate fuel without additional tax. Would you be willing to pay a $500 (just an example) annual fee instead of any additional (per gallon, or per mile) taxes?

I have to reply,
Look at this link

http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/ftfacts.html

In WA tax evasion is ony applicable if selling bio-diesel, and it does not mention any other alternative fuel

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83 300SD Dark Silver Dark brown inside