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Old 10-16-2013, 02:08 PM
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Thanks Stetch, I've test fitted the light about 4 times already, but yes I'll do it again prior to welding.
As for the trim line, we used a long 4 ft T-square to mark the initial cut-lines on both the donor panel and the car. The line went through the middle of the trim holes.

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Old 10-16-2013, 02:11 PM
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Sounds like you're all set. Get buzzing away!
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:16 PM
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Started welding. The first pic is the final test fit of the rear light assembly. The second pic is some tack welds which I ground down to see what they would looked like. I've never have done body work or sheet metal welding. I had been practicing with the welder on 3/16 angle, so it took a little learning before I realized to turn the heat down and slow the wire feed.
The third pic is a small section in which I kept filling holes with additional tack welds after they where ground down. The fourth pic is the panel welded to car. I need to continue with the tack welds but stopped for the evening, Oh my back.... Anyway I'm going tomorrow to my buddy's fabrication shop to fit the dog leg from the after market panel.
One thing I'd like to add. I knew about this fender repair a year ago when I bought the car. I used that time to researched mig welding and how to do weld sheet metal. One things I did to minimize warping the panel was to cool the weld after the tack was done. I purchased some video's on restoring a car and watched how these guys minimized panel warping by shutting compressed air on a weld after it was made.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:01 AM
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... I had been practicing with the welder on 3/16 angle, so it took a little learning before I realized to turn the heat down and slow the wire feed.

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Sorry but I had to laugh at that one! It is much easier on thicker metal isn't it?

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I purchased some video's on restoring a car and watched how these guys minimized panel warping by shutting compressed air on a weld after it was made.
You've got to be really careful about doing stuff like that - heating up steel and then quenching it makes it very hard and brittle. Whilst this is "only" body work lots of cracks isn't really what you want is it?'

Whilst TIG welding uses Argon as a shielding gas - and it is common to leave the gas flowing for a second or two after completing a weld - that is a gentle soft flow of gas compared with a rapidly expanding rapidly cooling gas.

This kind of advice reminds me of a bloke I knew who used N2 as a shielding gas in his MIG welder...
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Old 01-19-2021, 04:19 PM
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This is an epic thread. I may be doing a similar repair soon on a wagon that got smushed. I have not found any threads on doing rear quarter repair on a wagon, esp the tail light area. I imagine this area rarely gets repaired. Greg was such a boss to take this on with no experience and do a reasonable job of it.
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Old 01-26-2021, 04:59 PM
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Rather timely!
My '79 240D has got rust at the quarter
and the tire well
and the back ledge inside the trunk
I will be looking at a similar project next summer!!!! The rust, in spite of proper attention grows without any care whatsoever
NOT MY CROP!
I am relishing welding the replacement panels with a STICK WELDER
step one is chase down and remove rust (even the baby rust pockets) or it is like plating rusts seeds, you will have a healthy rust crop in no time.
I have done plenty welding, but NOT body panels
eons ago I worked in a body shop and shot Kondar, sanded it and scotchbrited
did a 72 Camaro in Imron, they told me to wipe with the body lines
I swirled.....gently
12-star paint job was the result
....but the pay was 2 stars had to leave....

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Old 06-16-2021, 05:44 PM
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You might search for my post a few months ago w/ photos as I removed the quarter panels on a 1983 300D (to store) before scrapping the car body. The sheet metal is very tricky around the lower corners of the rear windows. I've only used my cheap HF wire-feed welder (no gas). Can you weld sheet-metal w/ stick without just blowing holes thru?

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