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Old 11-16-2007, 07:49 AM
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Depends on if that purple flux capacitor is included.
Ahh... 'Back to the Future'. Maybe that's why everyone thinks their car can run on trash.

It seems I recall Doc Brown putting old beer and even beer cans in the Delorian in Back to the Future Part II.

I think I've seen someone on this forum say they'd run their 300sd on wiskey. Not too far off there.

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Old 11-16-2007, 07:51 AM
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That said...

To the original poster, I've run my 603 with a flat plate heat exchanger before the big filter on 50/50 for a while now. It seems to run smoother. Check out the schur blend when you get a chance. It may be a good solution.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:25 AM
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Depends on if that purple flux capacitor is included.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:50 AM
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Ahh... 'Back to the Future'. Maybe that's why everyone thinks their car can run on trash.

It seems I recall Doc Brown putting old beer and even beer cans in the Delorian in Back to the Future Part II.

I think I've seen someone on this forum say they'd run their 300sd on wiskey. Not too far off there.


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Old 11-16-2007, 12:47 PM
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I've been running WVO in my 1982 300D for almost 2 years and it seems to run fine on the stuff. Check out this website for people who are doing the same thing:

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:26 AM
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Oh it snows here, believe me. I've seen 10' drifts right here in my driveway.

Back in the 70's a buddy of mine moved to Buffalo. Went to visit him over the Christmas holidays. Very little snow on the ground when I got there. I laughed and said "I thought you guys get pounded up here?" Next morning I come down the steps for my coffee and Dave asks if I have looked outside. Holy jeez....all that you could see of my 4 WD truck was the antenna!! Now thats snow.

Back to the topic....anybody have trouble in the winter with blending? I've been running 80% diesel and 20% blend during the colder months but I just wonder if I would be ok with less diesel.

Over 20K on blend and only problem I've had so far is injector coking.

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I have been using kerosene, not RUG up to 20% with WVO (80% WVO, 20% kerosene). I have been getting better fuel mileage and more power out of kerosene than RUG, it is cheaper here, and then I always have a stash for my shop kerosene heater.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:02 AM
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I have been using kerosene, not RUG up to 20% with WVO (80% WVO, 20% kerosene). I have been getting better fuel mileage and more power out of kerosene than RUG, it is cheaper here, and then I always have a stash for my shop kerosene heater.
I wonder how kero/wvo reacts to cold? You live in a warmer climate than I. I will try kero on the next batch. I do notice some power loss. Thanks.

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Old 12-22-2007, 02:07 AM
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Depends on if that purple flux capacitor is included.
Hey ForcedInduction that was funny. LOL-Remind me to put a DNR sign on your cest next time you fall down the stairs. Really is wired/plumbed right? Just looking to save the world, bring the troops back and I need your help to do it. 1984 Mbz 300D GreaseCar Post Veg filter return.

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Old 12-22-2007, 09:36 AM
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"I hate veggie oil, I don't eat fried foods, I don't cook, I don't like the smell of it, I don't like it at all. Not in a house, not with a mouse, not in a train, not in a plane, not with a fox, not in a box.........Veggie oil will kill you if you even smell it. Your car will also cease to run when it is poured into the tank, it will start to run on 2 cylinders if you even get the fumes from veggie oil near the intake."

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Old 12-22-2007, 10:04 AM
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Hey ForcedInduction that was funny. LOL-Remind me to put a DNR sign on your cest next time you fall down the stairs. Really is wired/plumbed right? Just looking to save the world, bring the troops back and I need your help to do it. 1984 Mbz 300D GreaseCar Post Veg filter return.

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Back off a little guys. Granted, Forced Induction is no Veggie fan, but he does give sound technical advice. I think he was puzzled by the "flux capacitor" device and tempered his reply with a little sarcasm. I am not familiar with Veg-therm, but I have to admit I am not clear on the flux capacitor thing as well as some of the other aspects in your diagram. Where is the existing fuel line tied in?
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I'm in the process of installing a greasecar kit that came out of my 98 Jetta TDI before it was totaled. I drove on grease for about 2 years in that jetta worked great.

I would stay away from simply putting it into your main tank. That is asking for problems. My company does professional greasecar installs for almost any truck / cars and the MB are perfect for them. As long as you start up on biodiesel/ diesel and warm your car up to normal operating temp, and then switch over to grease you should be fine.

I would stay away from the veg-therm. I had one in my coldblooded VW, and it didn't do much. We use flat plate heat exchangers to get the temp up.

Make sure your oil is dewatered and filtered down to at least 10 micron and you should have any problems.

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Old 12-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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I see converting to WVO as the only way to get the GREEDY hand of the Federal Govt. and Major fuel companies out of my pocketbook.
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Ive converted an 87 300D turbo about a year ago using Frybrid's system. So far, 17,000 miles trouble free. Ive pumped in 650 gal of WVO and the Benz loves it. Drives quieter, smoother, same power.

Read all about it here -- http://www.gruvenparts.com/Vegie%20Benz/veggie%20benz.htm

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Old 12-24-2007, 12:29 AM
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I personally don't like vegetable oil. I think its a disgrace to our cars to put these conversion kits in them. I like my car the way it is, the way it was intended to be. However, I don't have a problem with biodiesel. Ive been learning how to make it and have now started building a processor out of 17 gallon barrels. If anyone here lives near Sacramento and needs good 17gal army surplus barrels for 5 dollars each ill give you the number. I do like how the clattering stops on biofuels, but I dont think the thickness of wvo is good for the components, if you can run biodiesel in a common rail engine, which are very technical, I believe it doesn't hurt the engine.

One thing thats always boggled my mind is how people convert their cars, instead of just making biodiesel. When you convert your car you need to first, convert it. This takes away its pride and value. Add a bunch of hoaky dash switches and gauges to it and it looks like crap. Then you need to make sure you prime the car on diesel and purge back to it, and if you don't it wont start. And anyway, you still have to clean and dewater the veggie oil, so why not add a few steps and make crystal clear, water thin biodiesel?
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I put http://www.fattywagons.com/fwproducts.htm these on my 300SDL prior to my decision not to run WVO. I do run Bio-D and sometimes up to B100, thus, these heaters might still come in handy. Just the other day, my B100 literally froze, but at the time I had sufficient #2 so the fuel did not freeze.

I also found these rather pricey heaters http://www.vegiecars.com/Injector_Heater/ but even so, I think a heated fuel filter is a necessity, along with a heated fuel system.

The fuel line heaters will get the fuel up to temp quick, verses the slower fuel line systems.
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Nice set up. Looks like you have a nice set up for filtering oil. Good job man.


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Me 3.

Ive converted an 87 300D turbo about a year ago using Frybrid's system. So far, 17,000 miles trouble free. Ive pumped in 650 gal of WVO and the Benz loves it. Drives quieter, smoother, same power.

Read all about it here -- http://www.gruvenparts.com/Vegie%20Benz/veggie%20benz.htm

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