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Old 02-16-2005, 12:37 PM
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240D with 4.6 million kilometres on the clock

A Greek taxi driver, Gregorios Sachinides, presented the Mercedes-Benz museum in Stuttgart with his trusty cab - a 1976 Mercedes 240D diesel with 4.6 million kilometres on the clock. It took only three motors for it to get to that millage

http://www.worldcarfans.com/classics.cfm/classicID/5040929.001/country/gcf/mercedes/proverbial-longevity-in-4.6-million-kilometers

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We all saw it coming
Benz sets new world record


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Old 02-16-2005, 01:19 PM
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Damn, now all those eBay sellers are going to exaggerate their W123s even more. But, damn, that is impressive. The original engine in my 240D only lasted 240k miles.
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:33 PM
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Startup is when these motors get nearly all of their damage.

If you look at any diesel that runs a long time, they are not started up and shutdown a lot. If you look at the traveling this guy did in this world record setting Benz you can see that it did some long runs. These motors are very high compression and very tight even more than most diesels and upon startup when cold they go through a tremendous amount of damage through the expansion and increased friction of cold non-lubricated parts. So probably the reason your diesel gave out early was its lifestyle.
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:39 PM
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If you look at any diesel that runs a long time, they are not started up and shutdown a lot. If you look at the traveling this guy did in this world record setting Benz you can see that it did some long runs. These motors are very high compression and very tight even more than most diesels and upon startup when cold they go through a tremendous amount of damage through the expansion and increased friction of cold non-lubricated parts. So probably the reason your diesel gave out early was its lifestyle.
I have this paperback titled "How to make your car last a million miles" by this automotive engineer and he concurs with what you posted above, he stated" 85% of your engine wear occurs on start up--15% of wear after the engine is warm and running down the highway". I have always used those good oil filters with the anti-drainback valves to prevent these dry starts as much as possible. ANymore, if I have to go to a neighborhood store for something, I walk instead of firing up the diesel. Better for me and the motor.
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:50 PM
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I read somewhere on another site (which I cannot find) that the car had 4 engines used in rotation through 11 engine rebuilds which would help explain 2,852,000 miles and 259,300 miles per engine rebuild if my memory is correct It's even more amazing that the car seems to not have suffered severe accidents in that time!
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:31 PM
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It's even more amazing that the car seems to not have suffered severe accidents in that time![/QUOTE]

would you want to hit a 240d with a fiat uno or panda?
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Old 02-17-2005, 10:33 AM
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What is really amazing is to consider the number of pot holes this car ran through on roads that aren't as good as those here in America. Body integrity is really something on these autos.

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Old 01-28-2006, 06:32 AM
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I'm fairly confident i'm onto something.....

iv driven my car now 40,000 miles since i got her......her mileage is today 240,149....

most of the use has been doing pizza deliveries, also a few long cross-country trips.......all since last dec......(a year ago)......

i had been using amsoil in my other cars i had, and my brothers use it in their bikes, so i switched all the fluids......anywas, i just wanted to mention that my motor runs like hell, and the turbo screams loud.......the 70-100 acceleration is sweet......

i am gradually "phasing out" changing it completely, and only doing a quart every 10k miles, and changing the filters then too......as she consumes no oil at all basicly, i think the little bit that escapes around my breather is all thats missing............im going to have an oil analyisis done at 20 k miles on this fill, with one filter change, and see......if its ok, i will continue not changing, under warranty from amsoil, who is confident in their analyis lab......i just read about a mc-cormick diesel tractor in their quarterly magazine, that they send to customers......its been 25 years since an oil change, looked brand new inside, and he added 1 quart per year, and apparently had been using it the whole time.......

i just wanted to throw this into the whole wear discussion......when u take my valve cover off, shes SHINY inside, and clean, other than a little oilyness from the residual amsoil........not a speck of dirty old gunky diesel-ness anymore.....shes recovered from years of oxidizing petroleum gunk, 200,097 miles was on her already, and she'd stood for 2 years when i got this car..........im fairly confident in reaching the million mile zero rollover in this car, with the original turbocharger, cams, and valves......i may change the timing chain sometime, for good measure, but it isnt a priority for me now.......and DEFINATELY, other than going to the Daimler-Benz Museum, this Coupe Diesel Turbo is never leaving my possessioinisn, EVER!

oh yeah, i use their Series 3000 100% Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil, which has the SAE 5w-30 ratings, winter cold temmperature flow index, and SAE Viscosity, respectively.....this means that the fluids properties are within the performance specs of the motors oiling system......as in the manual, u could'v used lightweight petro oil in super cold, due to the temps staying cooler.....of course, it cant protect it at all in higher temps, because it thins, and the film strength goes to nothing, etc.......so u make up for it with super thick oils......

this fluid is protecting already twice better in wear protection, film strength, and heat transfer, so everything stays cool also, even after racing all over town on delivery, or down the highway, the oil cooler always remains cool now, meaning that the engines parts are getting well lubricated (no heat causing friction) and that shes being constantly kept cool by the cool returning oil, so the oil cooler is actually efficient now........and the engine has much less oil drag now, and the turbo spins up faster, and on the highway really wails, like never at all when i first got her.......also, because of how she fires up instantly, even when its cold out, i know the compression is high.......and thats a given, as amsoil also ends up letting the rings seal better, reducing or eliminating the nasty blow-by.......

what do you guys think.....
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Old 01-28-2006, 08:14 AM
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Wow 11 rewbuilds?? We need to find out who he mechanic is and get him to rebuild all of our engines.
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Old 01-28-2006, 11:43 AM
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It certainly proves these /8s are durable, but i don't think its a world record. I think the current high-mileage belongs to a guy with a p-18 volvo who has 2 million+ on the same engine with the same bottom end. Not to take anything away from his achievment, but if the guy is only getting 260k miles per rebuild, then Larry Bible could give him some pointers Obviously a durable car and driver, regardless.

Wait, MB exchanged this guys /8 240 for a new benz?!? Poor guy got swindled....

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Old 01-28-2006, 11:55 AM
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http://www.germancarfans.com/classics.cfm/classicid/5040929.001/mercedes/1.html

There are some pics, the guy did indeed rotate 3 engines a total of 11 times during the 4.6 million km (2.85 million miles). Thats still about 260k miles per rebuild!

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Old 01-28-2006, 12:30 PM
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i just wanted to throw this into the whole wear discussion......when u take my valve cover off, shes SHINY inside, and clean, other than a little oilyness from the residual amsoil........not a speck of dirty old gunky diesel-ness anymore.....
Sounds just like the inside of my 617.952 that gets a regular dose of plain 'ol Rotella T.

My W115 does however, get Amsoil. It frequently sits unused and does not accumulate many miles.
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Old 01-28-2006, 05:19 PM
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My W115 does however, get Amsoil. It frequently sits unused and does not accumulate many miles.
Dang, if you ain't gonna drive that thing, you need to sell it back to me.

I just sent you an E-Mail to egapp on that 190D.

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To end an argument...

Diesel Mercedes Benz cars can last an incredible number of miles, with proper maintenance, and repair.
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:28 PM
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260k miles for a taxi engine is extremely impressive, I'll bet 90% of those miles are 'in-town' driving... lugging around 4 fat american tourists w/ 12 suitcases, punctuated by extended idling and topped off w/ the cheapest fuel they can find.

"Mr. Sachinidis bought his car in Germany in 1981 with around 220,000 km on the clock, before driving it back to Thessalonica. Here it was in service as a taxi 24 hours a day until July 2004"

thats 23 years divided by 11 engines is approximately 2 years per engine. Figger 8000 hours per year and you get an astonishing 16000 hours per rebuild... that is an insane amount of hours.

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