I believe the Injector Nut size on the 617 turbo Injectors preclude their use in the 93 as the 617 Injectors thread into the Precombustion Chamber Retaining Ring/Collar while I believe the Injectors on the 93 thread direct into the precombustion chamber.

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

Didn't mean injectors. Meant nozzles. Corrected my post. Thanks.

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What Would Rudolph Do?
1975 300D, 1975 240D, 1985 300SD, 1997 300D, 2005 E320 , 2006 Toyota Prius

The older stock nozzles are good for terrorist diesel fuel.For us that don't sponsor terrorism Monark is Superior for alternate fuels.

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1999 w140, quit voting to old, and to old to fight, a god damned veteran

Well it turns out the DN0SD 314 nozzles were standard starting in 4/92 and replaced the DN0SD 265 ones. Also, the little black plastic sleeve to keep junk from around the injectors and prechamber was discontinued. So these nozzles I have are original with 260,000 miles.

Monarchs are good for WVO heh? I think I've heard that. I have an elsbett system I bought for a 617 engine last year when they were on sale. The only difference between that and kit for the 602/603 is the nozzles. But I'm gonna go ahead and try the elsbett 617 nozzles anyway after reading this thread. Can't really hurt i don't see. The design of prechamber in the 602 appears to be improved over the 617 so I should get plenty good combustion. I'm expect they are at least as good as Monarks.

I ordered a set of Elsbett nozzles for the 603 wagon already. A bit pricey at 200.00 for 6 but they are supposed to be special for WVO. Elsbett makes their own nozzles in Germany. Where do you get Monarks? I see mercedes source sells em for 125.00 for the 314 nozzles.

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What Would Rudolph Do?
1975 300D, 1975 240D, 1985 300SD, 1997 300D, 2005 E320 , 2006 Toyota Prius

The Monarks are made in Germany. C Sean Watts buys the Nozzles and completely new Injectors direct from Monark. He has a lot of info on them.

I do not know how long Elsbett has been selling there stuff here in North America but if you do a search on them I do not think you will find much written about them.
Mercedes Source is the one who ads that Monarks are better for SVO, WVO. But, I have read that no were else except that the messeage is repeated on some Forums.
While I believe because the Monarks do not have the drilled Holes in the Injector Pintels to plug up as easily they may be less likely to do so when using Alternative Fuels this does not mean they were designed for use with Alternative Fuels.

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

Is it best to PM Sean Watts to order new ones? I need new injectors for my tired 150k ones in a 1991 300d.

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1991 300D 2.5 turbo
1991 560 SEL
1987 911
Toyota landcruiser
Atlanta, Gawga

mtb-
Ironically I just asked him to put me down for a set of four. Sean can be PMd at hessianimports@bellsouth.net and is getting ready to order more Monark injectors. Hope this helps.

Thanks- I ordered a set also.

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1991 300D 2.5 turbo
1991 560 SEL
1987 911
Toyota landcruiser
Atlanta, Gawga

mtbguy: i'll take those tired nozzles off your hands

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What Would Rudolph Do?
1975 300D, 1975 240D, 1985 300SD, 1997 300D, 2005 E320 , 2006 Toyota Prius

240 Bosch Nozzle on the left and 240 Bosch nozzle on the right.




The pintle on the left is NOT worn down. I have several sets like this, but only the old Bosch 'France' 240 nozzles (on the right) that I bought in 1998 have the extended tip....

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

BOTH nozzles shown are 240's and BOTH have a center spray hole with a crosshole.

The pintle on the left has a 0.15mm' crosshole and the nozzle on the right has a 0.20mm crosshole.

FSM says the style was changed in November, 1981...FWIW

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

Thoughts?????????????

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

Anybody still using dn0sd240 nozzles in an 60x engine? I have a bunch of these old german 240 nozzles and the way they're built is quite interesting. How the hell did they make that 0.15mm hole? Tempted to try them in the 603. They pop test quite well.

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