My 1983 240-D automatic trans has a problem with changeing gears. I have posted threads before , but this one will be more detailed. I got the 240 about one month ago it had a minor problem with trans then, or what I thought was a minor problem. It would not engage the reverse gear untill it had been driven for a few mins, or had been idleing for maybe 5 mins, untill the engine warmed up basically. I had a cranking problem one day so I changed the glow plugs and it fired right up. I was happy to have fixed the glow plugs so I wanted to go for a spin around the block, but I didn't want to wait for the reverse gear to warm up so that I could back out of the drive way, so I put the car in reverse and revved up the engine with my foot on the brake. I didn't think it would engage really, but it did. No big deal right? I just back out and put it into drive. I was thinking that its was running funny but I didn't know for sure untill I pulled out onto the main road. I couldn't get it to change into 2nd gear. I took it home and did some searching here on this site and got some possable causes but none seem to fit. I tryed changeing the filter, but I'm not sure it did any good. After I change the filter I refilled the pan "5.6 quarts". I checked the fluid with the engine running like my book said. The dip stick showed it was over filled "way over". I thought maybe the dip stick had been replaced with the wronge stick. So I proceeded to go for a test drive and nothing. So now I'm mad as hell. so I gunned it, and to my surprise it changed, but only when revved up to the point the engine sounded like it was about to blow up. I went though all the gears like this. 1st gear 0-25 2nd gear 25-45 3rd gear 45-60 4th gear kicks in at about 60-65 miles per hour. these are estimates. what I remember. Now that I'm sitting here thinking about it, the fluid level may mean a bad pump but I don't know. Thank you for reading this and for any suggestions.

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ironhead let it sit a day or two. its only been a couple hours on a sat. nite.

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[1981 300 td tdidi 165500 dark brown/palamino-Brownie-mine-3k miles of ownership
1983 240d 162+++ Anthricite grey w/ henna red interior and hella lights-wifes car-Red

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240d-144+ Manilla Yellow w/ palmino interior-greasecar kit-Blondie-the college kids car

23" gt 21 speed still on original tires-still got the nubs
21" khs tandem

Hmmm. Did you drain the torque convertor? That 5.6 quarts is for torque convertor and pan. If you didn't, the pan only holds a little over 2 qts.

If this is the case, you have a major overfill. Probably the easiest to do is drain the pan and add 2 qts and see how the level is.

I, myself, was surprised at how little fluid is in these transmissions.

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Sam

84 300SD 350K+ miles ( Blue Belle )

Do a search for Trans-x ......
Did you change to new fluid ( I presume ) ?
You can not use some capacity chart to make sure you have the correct amount of fluid... and it makes a LOT of difference to be either over or under ... if over you can be foaming your fluid... which causes two things.. transmission trying to operate on foam instead of fluid...and the really rapid oxidation of the fluid... causing the working life to be measure in hours instead of thousands of miles..
You have to put about the right amount in, be sure the car is at operating temperature, test drive, add fluid, test drive...

Get that fluid out of there, make certain you are not overfilled.
That tranny cannot operate correctly overfilled.

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can also be contributed to a massive loss of vacuum. If you pulled a line loose or happened to knock the cap loose on the modulator it will shift at very high rpms. Check the vacuum to the tranny and make sure nothing got knocked off by accident.

Filling an MBZ tranny is something between science and magic in my mind. I have neve gotten it at the right level the first fill. I leave it a little low now and then drive it, then check it and add, then drive it, then check it and add, then drive it.... I think you get my point. A little bit of fluid climbs the stick fast when you are topping off.

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The way I fill em is to measure the amount that I remove if it was at the correct level and refilling it with the same amount. I use old gallon plastic bottles to measure how much is removed.

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Jim

If you did drain everything its something around 7 quarts to refill it all.

You used dextron/mercon III right?

(insert related story here)
Maybe a coincidence but I changed the trans filter on my 240D and refilled with the dealer new synthetic style fluid. Two days later I was giving my buddy's 240D a jump start in a parking lot when he said he heard a "click" from my car with it at idle. I thought nothing of it untill we went to leave and I had nothing but a box of neutral. my main pump had locked up and sheared the two teeth off the torque converter. Lucky for me we had his car started so he ended up giving me a ride home.

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1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

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Most of the reponses I see are concerned with the fluid level. I will make the changes as soon as it stops raining. As for the vac I don't think I did anything to it, but even if I did I don't know any of the names of the parts. I did look at the lines but I didn't see any thing disconnected.

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