$3.15 a gallon! - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

aklim · #31 08-12-2005, 05:04 PM

2.49 here

97dieseldriver · #32 08-12-2005, 05:39 PM

$2.37 here, but gasoline is going up 3 cents a day for the last 3 days!

In my town absolutely no public transportation that is useable, roads are clogged, and people line up 6 deep at the bank auto teller, while no one is on the inside lobby line.

Here we go 1973! I am buying a couple of 55 gal drums for the shortages.

vahe · #33 08-12-2005, 06:44 PM

"I love how fuel seems to go up almost a dollar a year. At this rate we will be complaining about $4 a gallon fuel next year."

Last year when diesel prices started to escalate, we were told that it was the demand just before the heating season as wholesellers start to plan for the winter. Well, guess what, we are in for a repeat of the same, so in addition to $65/gal. oil, factor in the winter in the upcoming diesel prices. By next summer my 240D will become a true guzzler. If you are looking for an economical car consider a Hummer or any SUV in the same weight class, you can depreciate pretty close to $70K if you drive one of those monsters, but don't thank me for that tip, thank IRS.

Vahe
240D 77/350K

WANT '71 280SEL · #34 08-12-2005, 07:24 PM

Our surge in fuel prices has nothing to do with people driving SUV's. I'll be honest, I average 21-22 mpg in my SDL with a lot of that being highway driving, most SUV's are getting comparable numbers! Yes, they do get worse mileage than a Metro, but who the hell would want to drive on of those *****boxes? I like some of the SUV's. I live the G-wagon and the ML though many diesel people in here don't. I also really like the Yukon XL Denali, I think they are a great package and you won't understand what I'm talking about unless you've driven one. I had an '02 yukon XL for a day last week and I loved it! Granted, I do prfer large vehicles (thus my LWB MB). They are more comfortable in that they offer many features of a car and indeed many more. So, flame as you will, but the day the government determines the type/size of the vehicle I can drive I'm getting the hell out. Though I'm sure it will be worse elsewhere as the U.S.A. tends to catch onto the socialism theme after most other developed nations.

So I bid you all good night. (it would be a better night if they'd start building some refineries).

Thanks
David

Brian Carlton · #35 08-12-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WANT '71 280SEL

Our surge in fuel prices has nothing to do with people driving SUV's. I'll be honest, I average 21-22 mpg in my SDL with a lot of that being highway driving, most SUV's are getting comparable numbers!

Is that right?

A typical 6,000 lb. $hitbox gets 12 mpg. Some of the lighter ones such as the Grand Cherokee get about 16 mpg in the real world.

It's difficult to find any of them that achieve 22 mpg in real world driving. About the only vehicles that reach this fuel economy are the Honda CRV and Toyota Highlander. How many of them do you see out there?

The surge in fuel prices is based upon demand. The $hitboxes play a role in this demand. They are not the only culprit, for sure, but you can't dismiss the extra fuel that they consume, in aggregate, when viewed in the numbers that are out there.

WANT '71 280SEL · #36 08-12-2005, 09:16 PM

So if they average 16mpg (which is where a Trailblazer and a Cherokee tend to average) then is that number really that bad? I GM sedan with a supercharged 3800 is rated at 17/27, that is according to the window sticker. Yes, there is obviously a fuel efficiency difference but not one that is great enough to affect the change of recent years. They do not help, but neither does any car on the road. That's just life. I personally see nothing wrong with driving an SUV if that's what you want to drive. How come no one says anything about trucks? Most of the people who are chatting on this board have some old crappy truck they use to retrieve their WVO or do errands in when their benz is down, but no one says anything about that? They just complain about the 35 year old mother taking her kids to soccer practice in a Suburban. Certain people like different kinds of vehicles. Some like small some like big and others like stupidly big.

Thanks
David

thebenzbar · #37 08-12-2005, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

It's difficult to find any of them that achieve 22 mpg in real world driving. About the only vehicles that reach this fuel economy are the Honda CRV and Toyota Highlander. How many of them do you see out there?

Ditto with BC... not many compared to the gas-guzzling medium-large SUV's & trucks out there! ...just add my wife's '03 Toyota RAV4 on that short 20+mpg list BC...it gets @ 25mpg highway & lower in the city (with my heavy foot!)

Brian Carlton · #38 08-12-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thebenzbar

Ditto with BC... not many compared to the gas-guzzling medium-large SUV's & trucks out there! ...just add my wife's '03 Toyota RAV4 on that short 20+mpg list BC...it gets @ 25mpg highway & lower in the city (with my heavy foot!)

Yeah Al, I forgot about the RAV4. It's even smaller than the Highlander.

Now there is a $hitbox that I don't object to.

Brian Carlton · #39 08-12-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WANT '71 280SEL

Most of the people who are chatting on this board have some old crappy truck they use to retrieve their WVO or do errands in when their benz is down, but no one says anything about that? They just complain about the 35 year old mother taking her kids to soccer practice in a Suburban.

We've had intense discussions regarding this topic over in O.D. You are correct. The answer is that such people are hypocrites. I am a hypocrite. I drive a Dodge Van filled with tools around town to pick up groceries and parts and such when I could take the SDL. I won't take the SDL around town because I don't want to run the diesel around town and I don't want the doors damaged in the parking lots.

But, it extends even further than this. Let's say I don't even own the Dodge Van. Just because I get 28 mpg with the M/B, do I get the right to criticize folks getting 18 mpg? If I really was serious about conserving fuel, I would get a Jetta diesel and get 49 mpg. Or, I might get the Prius and get 55 mpg.
But, I don't. I only get 28 mpg and criticize those who get 18 mpg.

A bit hypocritical. But, I admit it.

When gas prices get up over $3.00, the problem will start to correct itself. Less and less people will be able to afford to push a Expedition around town. Around here, it is currently the vehicle of choice.

thebenzbar · #40 08-12-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

When gas prices get up over $3.00, the problem will start to correct itself. Less and less people will be able to afford to push a Expedition around town. Around here, it is currently the vehicle of choice.

hehehe... here in Philly it's also the "bling-bling" vehicle of choice for the "wanna-be-afluent" look! I see a variety of them all the time on my way to work... early-model Expeditions with a set of $3-4,000 20"+ rims!

...what a waste of $$ IMO... the wheels sometimes cost more than the vehicle! ..different strokes for different folks!

...back to the topic - 2 days ago I filled the TD up @ $2.37 per gal... today the same gas station is already at $2.49 per gal (diesel)

Brian Carlton · #41 08-12-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thebenzbar

early-model Expeditions with a set of $3-4,000 20"+ rims!

..

I just about fell over when I saw some of the prices for a set of 20" wheels for those vehicles. Absolutely stunning. Hell, you can buy an entire W123 in excellent conditon, for the cost of one set of chrome wheels.

What are they, gold plated??

Unbelievable.

thebenzbar · #42 08-12-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I just about fell over when I saw some of the prices for a set of 20" wheels for those vehicles. Absolutely stunning. Hell, you can buy an entire W123 in excellent conditon, for the cost of one set of chrome wheels. What are they, gold plated?? Unbelievable.

ROFL.

I know BC! There is NO way I would ever spend 4-figures just on a set of chromed spinning wheels that will likely crack or split especially here in the potholed streets of Philly! Hmmm, I wonder if there are 123s, 116,s 126s, etc... out there with monstrous 20"++ rims?? Wouldn't that alone cause havoc to the suspension pieces & geometry??

DslBnz · #43 08-12-2005, 11:06 PM

These pimps want big wheels? Get a commercial operator's license and "yo-yo bling bling" around in a semi.

I just don't get it.

aklim · #44 08-13-2005, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by thebenzbar

Ditto with BC... not many compared to the gas-guzzling medium-large SUV's & trucks out there! ...just add my wife's '03 Toyota RAV4 on that short 20+mpg list BC...it gets @ 25mpg highway & lower in the city (with my heavy foot!)

Do realize also that it won't support much of a load. My friend tows an open trailer with 1 ATV on it in her Ford Focus. However, the price she has to pay is that she cannot be in overdrive and the total of the trailer and ATV cannot weigh more than 1000 pounds.

You cannot compare it with a Suburban because it cannot do the same function.

thebenzbar · #45 08-13-2005, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Do realize also that it won't support much of a load. My friend tows an open trailer with 1 ATV on it in her Ford Focus. However, the price she has to pay is that she cannot be in overdrive and the total of the trailer and ATV cannot weigh more than 1000 pounds. You cannot compare it with a Suburban because it cannot do the same function.

huh??

I'm not comparing its "utility or functionality" with a Suburban or Expedition, or Yukon, etc... just saying it gets 20+ mpg (for being a compact SUV) like what BC pointed out earlier. I don't tow anything anyway... RAV4's are weak when it comes to power, load, overdrive, etc... it's just a sporty-type mini-SUV that's reliable and has that cutty-jappy look.... it gets my wife from point A to point B in a vehicle she chose (and pays for)...

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