Aaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!!! Please tell me I haven't REALLY blown it. - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

vwnate1 · #16 11-27-2005, 04:28 PM

You'll be happy to know they sell these at the .99 CENTS Store , black instead of chrome but it's the same thing and the magnet is rated @ 8 pounds ~ really ! I've picked up some very heavy stuff with mine... the magnet is about 11 MM round and is allready firmly attached to the telescoping mast...

Good luck , let us know how it goes .

I once chipped a timing gear as I was installing it into a fully rebuilt vintage engine , I heard the chip tinkle as it fell into the timing chest , couldn't leave it there as it'd get caught in the aluminum cam gear for sure ~ Howie and I took the engine upside down and shook the living hell out of it for several minutes and lucky for me , the chip came bouncing back out ~ good thing it was a magnesium block and Iwas still young and hearty else I'da never been able to do that .

Don't panic , this will make good gearhead coffee chat for years to come .

300DPETE · #17 11-27-2005, 04:35 PM

I bought a couple of telecsopic magnets and regular rectangular magnets, but I don't know how if any of them are going to fit in any way (I'm still at work).

Ra_ · #18 11-27-2005, 04:37 PM

Wow! Your place of employment has a VERY extensive gift shop.

300DPETE · #19 11-27-2005, 04:43 PM

Radio Shack and Pep Boys on the way into the office this morning.

kerry · #20 11-27-2005, 04:54 PM

I'd also try one of the four pronged spring loaded grabbers. They also are usually 99c and since they are not magnetic and also flexible, they are very useful in tight spaces. Open it up slightly, push it down the hole until it encounters something and let it close. With a nut, there's a good chance it will go thru the hole and grab it.

300DPETE · #21 11-27-2005, 05:40 PM

I almost got one of those this morning. I thougth it wouldn't work. Guess I should have picked it up.

300DPETE · #22 11-27-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by P.E.Haiges

Your biggest worry is if the bolt falls down into the crankcase and it gets caught between a rod and the side of the engine block. This would force the bolt thru the side of the engine.

Ahh. So it's not like there's a sealed channel right to the pan. There's a side of the hole that is exposed to the rods? I guess I'm having some difficulty visuallizing.

Pete.

t walgamuth · #23 11-27-2005, 07:17 PM

picture the upper part of the block and head. there will be holes in them that simply go straight down. from the area of the valves and cam it is a straight shot down to the open part of the crankcase where the crank rods and oil reside. if the nut is small enough and the hole big enough it will simply fall straight down to the oil pan. now if it is at the back of the pan it might not fall forward into the lower part the steel sump where the oil collects and is picked up by the oil pump and distributed. i would take a strong light and look down the hole or probe it with a coat hanger first. if it is not lodged it will be in the pan. then after being certain it is not in the hole i would drop the steel pan and look there. if not there i would reach back in the upper pan with my hand if enough room if not then with the magnet.

i dropped a nut down in one of my engines a few years back. i was really scared. but i dropped the pan and found it on a ledge just under the cam chain area.

i think you have an excellent chance of finding it in the sump or the pan. you could also jack up the back and tap the pan to get it to fall forward.

beleive me you arent the first to have this problem. you will get it out!

tom w

MTUpower · #24 11-27-2005, 08:45 PM

Have you thought about using a shop-vac? stick it in the hole and turn it on... if the engine is still full of oil.. drain some first. Just a thought.

300DPETE · #25 11-27-2005, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth

picture the upper part of the block and head. there will be holes in them that simply go straight down. from the area of the valves and cam it is a straight shot down to the open part of the crankcase where the crank rods and oil reside. if the nut is small enough and the hole big enough it will simply fall straight down to the oil pan. now if it is at the back of the pan it might not fall forward into the lower part the steel sump where the oil collects and is picked up by the oil pump and distributed. i would take a strong light and look down the hole or probe it with a coat hanger first. if it is not lodged it will be in the pan. then after being certain it is not in the hole i would drop the steel pan and look there. if not there i would reach back in the upper pan with my hand if enough room if not then with the magnet.

i dropped a nut down in one of my engines a few years back. i was really scared. but i dropped the pan and found it on a ledge just under the cam chain area.

i think you have an excellent chance of finding it in the sump or the pan. you could also jack up the back and tap the pan to get it to fall forward.

beleive me you arent the first to have this problem. you will get it out!

tom w

Thanks, Tom. If it fell down a hole that's in the back of the engine (towards the firewall, wouldn't it be better to jack up the front end so it falls backwards (if it's in there) and down to the pan instead of forwards and towards rods, etc.? Am I seeing this right?

BTW, I tried the magnet but didn't find anything. I'm going to drain the oil and take the pain off (which will take forever as the engine is stone cold).

Pete.

300DPETE · #26 11-27-2005, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUpower

Have you thought about using a shop-vac? stick it in the hole and turn it on... if the engine is still full of oil.. drain some first. Just a thought.

I thought about that...I'll try that if it doesn't end up in the pan.

leathermang · #27 11-27-2005, 09:35 PM

That sounds like an EXPLOSION....
Fumes from oil sucked into an electric motor....
I would not try that if I were you...

TheDon · #28 11-27-2005, 09:38 PM

maybe he means put it on blow instead of suck..

300DPETE · #29 11-27-2005, 09:48 PM

Ok, I wont do that

Elktonjohn · #30 11-27-2005, 10:30 PM

Hate to barge in...a speaker magnet, preferably removed from the speaker part first, or the magnet from an old hard drive (right powerful on older drives)may move the nut along the bottom of the pan without having to fight gravity and while looking down the hole with a flashligt is no doubt useless, a laser pointer used to look into the empty oil pan might help...some mechanics also use a hi-intensity blue LED pencil light...sorry about the hair-brained stuff here but sometimes even a crappy idea...