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ConnClark · #16 01-05-2006, 01:44 PM

Ithink the Best diesel SUV would involve cross breeding a UniMog with a 300SD

EdzBenz · #17 01-05-2006, 02:33 PM

I like the new VW Toureq with the V10 diesel engine.

redassag00 · #18 01-05-2006, 03:06 PM

Theres the Excursions

aklim · #19 01-05-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jcyuhn

Without question, the best diesel SUV ever sold in the U.S. was the 1987 Mecedes-Benz 300TDT wagon. It is quick, efficient, comfortable, safe, has competent handling and brakes, and capacious. (It will carry a tandem bicycle or washer and dryer in the cargo area, as examples.) I rather wish I'd have kept mine, there's something about the character of a diesel vehicle...

OK, that wasn't useful, I know. As previous posters have illuminated, there just isn't much to choose from. 'Muricans won't buy a diesel, and SUV drivers simply don't care about economy (as long as their credit cards still work...). Just occurred to me - the huge Ford is available in diesel - what's that one called? I should know, there's enough of them running around Dallas; all with only the driver aboard.

How is that an SUV? That is a station wagon and totally different, IIRC.

Economy is wonderful. However, it would cost me more in insurance and maintenance if I were to get a 2nd car for skirting around, diesel truck to pull my loads and something to transport bulky loads. Yes,quite often I am alone in my SUV but until you are willing to write me a check to cover the difference, I cannot afford all 3 vehicles.

aklim · #20 01-05-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by redassag00

Theres the Excursions

I wouldn't get an 03 since that is the first year of the 6.0L powerstroke but earlier years with the 7.3 are good. They stopped making them in 05 but you can get a new Expidition in 06 with a diesel.

andmoon · #21 01-05-2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I wouldn't get an 03 since that is the first year of the 6.0L powerstroke but earlier years with the 7.3 are good. They stopped making them in 05 but you can get a new Expidition in 06 with a diesel.

I tried looking at fords website for a diesel expedition but don't see any. Could you point me in the right direction for a diesel expedition?
Don

dunl · #22 01-05-2006, 04:15 PM

Excursion, not Expedition. There are no diesel Expeditions....you have to go one size larger to the Excursion for that.

rsheely · #23 01-05-2006, 04:39 PM

1. Excursion
2. Jeep Liberty CRD
3. VW Toureg
4. Suburban

#24 01-05-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aamiggia

I'd hate to be the barer or bad news, but there are very few diesel SUV's native to North America from the 90's. Your only choice is a Suburban (as mentioned above), a Tahoe, and a Hummer H1. Unfortunately they all use the POS 6.5 TD from GM. That engine is probably the worst diesel ever produced, other than the GM diesels of the 80's.

You'd be much better off importing a Toyota Landcruiser, Nissan, or Mitsu SUV from Japan. There are tons of dealers in BC and AB that do this. The only catch is they're all RHD.

I agree with you about the 6.5. The thing of it is, this is basically the same engine as those Olds diesels of the 80's that you talked about. They don't want you to know that, but it is just an improved version of that same old POS.

I'm sure that it is indeed improved because it will actually run for awhile which is more than you can say for the Olds engine. After the improvements, they came up with the fancy Dura Max name to try to make everyone think that it was something completely different but it was the same old crap. It was an improved version of the same old crap, but still the same old crap.

The main reason that I despise the GM V8 diesel so much is what it, in effect, did to the MB diesels. Up until the time that GM started pawning off that POS, MB was having fantastic success selling the diesel 115's, 116's and 126's. In the early 80's these cars made up some 80% of the US sold MB's. After GM got through with their diesel car charade, the poor reputation of THEIR diesel spoiled the ENTIRE diesel car market in the US.

My $0.02,

tscorda · #25 01-05-2006, 07:27 PM

There is no good suv. They are the scourge of the earth...in my opinion. We got along just fine with one axle wheel drive cars, which were mostly station wagons and sedans. Without 100 foot blind spots and ride up your rear road rage. Next thing you know we will want loud diesel loud motor cyles. Why do they have to be so loud, will someone tell me? The only answer I got was from some “brain surgeon” here in Pennsylvania who was riding one of these 4000-decibel things. I asked him. He said it was for “safety” and here the idiot is riding with out a helmet. No brain no pain? I think it is the “look at me” syndrome?

Sorry, had to spout out.

Tom

#26 01-05-2006, 07:53 PM

You can get some nice Diesel Land Cruisers in Canada, the 70 Series comes to mind.

aklim · #27 01-05-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tscorda

There is no good suv. They are the scourge of the earth...in my opinion.

We got along just fine with one axle wheel drive cars, which were mostly station wagons and sedans. Without 100 foot blind spots and ride up your rear road rage.

Next thing you know we will want loud diesel loud motor cyles. Why do they have to be so loud, will someone tell me? The only answer I got was from some “brain surgeon” here in Pennsylvania who was riding one of these 4000-decibel things. I asked him. He said it was for “safety” and here the idiot is riding with out a helmet. No brain no pain? I think it is the “look at me” syndrome?

Sorry, had to spout out.

Tom

Why didn't you include trucks then? Men have been driving trucks the same way as women drive SUVs?

We got along fine with the horse and buggy too. Why change that? All the SUV is, isn't more than a truck with covers and seats in the bed area. They are off the same chasis. Before the SUV and even now, men have been driving trucks with also the same apparent lack of purpose. My neighbour is a 2 truck family with nothing to haul too till you look under the bed cover.

Have no fear. I doubt anyone wants a diesel motorcycle unless it is just to be unique. Not everyone wants a diesel vehicle. Next you will be mentioning about diesel lawnmowers for city folk.

aklim · #28 01-05-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by andmoon

I tried looking at fords website for a diesel expedition but don't see any. Could you point me in the right direction for a diesel expedition?
Don

Sorry. Excursion

http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/15440/year/2005/make/Ford/model/Excursion

dunl · #29 01-05-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tscorda

There is no good suv. They are the scourge of the earth...in my opinion. We got along just fine with one axle wheel drive cars, which were mostly station wagons and sedans. Without 100 foot blind spots and ride up your rear road rage. Next thing you know we will want loud diesel loud motor cyles. Why do they have to be so loud, will someone tell me? The only answer I got was from some “brain surgeon” here in Pennsylvania who was riding one of these 4000-decibel things. I asked him. He said it was for “safety” and here the idiot is riding with out a helmet. No brain no pain? I think it is the “look at me” syndrome?

Sorry, had to spout out.

Tom

Honestly, if you have to apologize then why bother typing it all out.

Please feel free to start your own thread about why you hate SUV's.....I'm actually looking for information here.