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07-01-2006, 01:58 AM
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Starter Problems AGAIN ??????
Good evening gentleman
I was at the mall tonight waiting for my wife when I had to move my car a little closer to the main door.After shutting the engine off for a few minutes I tried to restart it again and NOTHING!No engine turning over at all.I was able to fit under the car to gently tap on the bendix and starter thinking maybe it was the problem but again NOTHING. There is no clicking that i could hear or anything else.I have plenty of juice in the battery because all the lights come on including the glow plug light etc etc.I have also tried it in neutral thinking it could have been the neutral switch but again NOTHING 1983 300 SD What may of gone wrong??? 
Last edited by Bens lover; 07-07-2006 at 11:59 PM. 
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#2
07-01-2006, 02:33 AM
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Check the three terminal block on the right front wheel well under the hood. There is connections there for the starter and the power for the car comes from there. Check that the terminals are clean. You can also activate the starter from there. Jump from the heavy wire to the smaller one. The starter should engage. This will tell you if the starter is good or not. If the starter works from there but not at the key, Either the neutral safety switch or the key switch failed. You might need a "Hard Start" relay.
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My Truck.. 2007 DODGE, 5.9 Cummins, 6spd stick, 4X4. My car..1977 240D, OTHER WHEELS...1955 VW Oval window bug, European Delivery (Holland) with a 1700cc, 2 barrel, Porsche drum brakes. 1939 WILLYS Pick-up. 1967 Triumph 200cc Tiger Cub. 1976 Honda 550F 4cyl Motor Cycle.
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#3
07-01-2006, 05:21 PM
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From witch wires do i need to attemp a jump start.I know the large red one is to be used,but witch other one should I jump from?
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07-01-2006, 05:46 PM
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Ok I did that and all i hear is a clicking noise from the glow plug wiring box on the left fender.Now i had a spare box like this and i did replace it but i have the same problem.Could it be the starter is fried???
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07-01-2006, 09:22 PM
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Guy's
Is there a way to do a bench test on a starter and how do we go along doing this? I was able to remove the starter on my 1983 300 SD with out much problems...Did have to remove the exhaust pipe at the exit of the turbo and the rear cross member to be able to retrieve the starter itself.All in all about 1.0 hour Regards Dan
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#7
07-07-2006, 11:11 PM
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Ok guy's
The latest update.... Well yesterday I had the old starter refurbish,they replaced all the brushe's and they also replaced the solenoid that was very weak.Did several tests on there bench and everything was looking good until....This morning after work i started to re install the starter and when I was finaly done I had the engine turn over...It was great, it started I would say four maybe five times...Then the same Damn problem again....NOTHING!  So thats where it ended for today.I have no idea what went wrong.I tryed to jump start it via the wires on the R/H fender but again NOTHING! Whats next guy's? Im getting tired of this. Looking forward for your wise adivice... Regards Dan
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#8
07-08-2006, 10:07 AM
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Hmmm. You said you started and stopped it 4 or 5 times? How long did you wait in between? These starters get real hot when turning. If you stopped and started it 4 or 5 times in rapid succession you may have hurt something. Also, I didnt see you list a rewound armature in that list of things they rebuilt. If you have a short in there it very often only shows when hot, especialy at first. If they didnt rewind the original or replace it you may very well still have a bad starter.
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#9
07-08-2006, 11:47 AM
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No I started the car four or five times in a period of about 2 hours or so.
Im not sure what they did exactly to the starter.All i know is they replaced the brushes had to do a special weld to them because it was a diesel starter and they also replaced the solenoid and they did a bench test while i was there.
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#10
07-08-2006, 04:41 PM
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Try pushing forward on the gear selection lever when it is in park. I believe that can give the safety switch an extra nudge.
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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver 1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver 1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine
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#11
07-08-2006, 07:54 PM
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Today I removed the junction box and cleaned all the wire connections,and the junction box too...Made sure all the wires are not cut or damaged and all is ok.So i think the next step is to remove the starter motor again and bring it back to the shop that rebuilt it to have checkd again.
One day at a time guy's ..lol
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