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Old 08-30-2006, 10:51 AM
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There's nothing wrong with running your cars on whatever you can get to burn... it just appears that you need to do a little more driver's ed.

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Old 08-30-2006, 10:58 AM
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Wasn't the diesel engine originally designed to run on peanut oil? So farmers could make their own fuel? I'm not saying today's diesel engines / fuel systems are designed for plant oils, but I am saying....don't forget your roots.....or legumes.
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:07 AM
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Wasn't the diesel engine originally designed to run on peanut oil? So farmers could make their own fuel? I'm not saying today's diesel engines / fuel systems are designed for plant oils, but I am saying....don't forget your roots.....or legumes.
100 years of technological development is the equivalent of several millenia of cultural development. I you want to go back to your roots... welcome back to the dark ages.
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:14 AM
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100 years of technological development??!!?? The internal combustion engine has changed very little in 100 years. Catalytic converters and OnStar notwithstanding, I dont think some electronic fuel injection would impress Rudolph all that much. The Model T got 27 MPG on ethanol or gas (i.e. it was a Flex Fuel Vehicle). We've gone virtually nowhere from a combustion perspective. Bad argument
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:30 AM
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Glad to see people aren't only foolish on the Off Topic forum. Don't pay any mind. It is far froma fad, and I think it's great that you can do it!

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Old 08-30-2006, 11:41 AM
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I would agree that the average American is not going to dumpster dive, but it's not a fad if the average American does not do it. It's a niche. Get it straight boys.
I guess we will all be able to look back in about 10 years and see if it was really a fad or a niche. In the mean time we are all free to do what we want.
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:50 AM
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Puttin 20 on niche. Fads are for teenagers.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:14 PM
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If it were a fad, you wouldn't be able to find enough VO to burn in your car, would you? It seems to me like this only works as long as it doesn't get too popular. Or else, if it becomes wildly popular. Anywhere in between and the supply will get low and the prices would go up, it seems to me.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:43 PM
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That's true about the 'fad' label. I live in Las Vegas, one of the fastest growing cities in the nation - current population of about 2 million - and there are a total of seven cars burning WVO in town... I wouldn't really classify that as a 'fad' either.

I'm just glad that I'm one of the seven (two actually - we own two of the seven WVO cars in town) who gets to drive past gas stations without having to empty my wallet to fill up my tank.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:47 PM
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I'd hang laminated instructions around the rear view mirror. My wife used to do all sorts mechanical things before we got married. Now all she does is make honeydo lists.

This is another good reason for blending.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:01 PM
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I'd hang laminated instructions around the rear view mirror. My wife used to do all sorts mechanical things before we got married. Now all she does is make honeydo lists.
I've already 'guilted' her into never doing this again. My wife has been equally excited about this car as me, so she knows that she has to drive it right - and now I'm confident she will not run for extended periods on 'purge' again!
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:45 PM
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Wasn't the diesel engine originally designed to run on peanut oil? So farmers could make their own fuel? I'm not saying today's diesel engines / fuel systems are designed for plant oils, but I am saying....don't forget your roots.....or legumes.
Keeping the spirit of this thread, this "diesel engine originally designed to run on peanut oil?" statement is the most abused and ridiculous one around regarding biofuels.

The modern diesel engine is designed to run on DIESEL fuel. Fortunately vegetable oil can be treated such that it more-or-less can match the characteristics of diesel fuel.

And in regards to the original post, you have discovered the major flaw in your kit design. It seems absolutely stupid to run the the fuel return line into the vegetable oil tank, especially without a timer on the line to prevent pumping your entire diesel tank into your trunk.
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:09 PM
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Wasn't the diesel engine originally designed to run on peanut oil? So farmers could make their own fuel? I'm not saying today's diesel engines / fuel systems are designed for plant oils, but I am saying....don't forget your roots.....or legumes.

if you all do a little reading on the subject, you will find that rodulph accually designed his engine to run on coal dust. plant oils are just an added bonus. he also probably would be very impressed with any fuel injector that acually worked. something he never quite got down.

but yes, present day diesels are made to burn dino fuel.however, mine burns everything that i have put in the tank, so far,

we will see about fads when diesel tops $6/ gal. the day is soon.

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Old 08-30-2006, 02:30 PM
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having made biodiesel and used it i feel more assured that i wont have a problem with biodiesel(granted your quality control is as good as you can achieve)

WVO is a grand idea if you have the time, distance to drive, and the initiative

biodiesel, sure it took me 2 days to make a batch and cost about 60 cents to the gallon(methanol 120$ for 55 gallons and 80$ for a 50 lbs of lye) but i know that i dont need to buy a heated tank, cut holes in my trunk. route fuel lines extra filters... all i had to do was spend 500$ on a processor and maybe 200$ on supplies when ever i needed them.
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:31 PM
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we will see about fads when diesel tops $6/ gal. the day is soon.

peace.
You're probably right about $6/gallon. I hate to say it, but that will do more to reduce fuel consumption and emissions than any type of alternative fuel currently available. People will simply drive less, use public transportation, carpool, telecommute, etc. All the things we've been talking about for the last 30 years may actually happen. It won't be pretty, but it will work. A few additional people will try SVO, WVO, etc., but it will still be a tiny percentage.

I'll probably drive a little less and use my motorcycle a little more, but I'll still be buying diesel (or commercial bio-diesel), if I was really that concerned about the price of fuel I would have already bought a new TDI.

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