Well, it happened! My wife drove our VW Beetle TDI with the GreaseCar system by herself this evening and succeeded in driving the car halway across town in PURGE mode. Needless to say, she ran half the diesel tank into the WVO tank... Fortunately it only overflowed a *little* bit...

I think this is enough reason to *NEVER* let her drive my Benz, certainly not by herself - only with me in the passenger seat!!!

stick with the fuel its made 2 use and you wont have problems

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Blah blah blah... "Don't use veg-oil..." blah blah blah... "Just use diesel..." blah blah blah...

Remember that thing your mom always said, "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all..."

...it still applies.

Don't bother, this little fad will run it's course in time.

It can't end soon enough.

I don't think his post could be considered "not nice" actually. There can be nice differences of opinions......
Sounds like somebody failed to properly train the wife. Remember, unlike us, they have something other than diesel auto's, and alternate fuels.

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Wow, I'm surprised at the negative posts regarding WVO use. I thought this was a more WVO-friendly forum... perhaps all the WVO advocates have already retired for the evening...

Especially considering the light-hearted nature of my initial post, I didn't expect such gloomy responses...

That is true - a good friend of mine had a great acronym for the female of our species:

EBU = Estrogen Based Unit

You're right, they do run on an alternate fuel themselves.

I know, but these kind of things have a predictable life cycle (kinda like the pet rock).

The folks selling these "kits" will make a little money, a few cars will get hacked up, most of these guys will get sick of dumpster diving, the "suppliers" of WVO will figure out they can get paid for this garbage and/or they will get nervous about suppling untaxed fuel, we'll eventually have more parts cars.

It's past their bedtime.

Or they're dumpster diving after hours hoping to not get caught.

I did my share of that this afternoon. Netted about 14 gallons. California smog czars won't let me mess with a gasser, so...

Sixto
93 300SD

Don't worry about the little forum flames. Some would find something to complain about with a free Gull Wing.
BTW: I too hope the fad ends soon. Maybe my neighbor will fold leaving the better WVO from the Chinese restaurant for me!

It's hard to get sick of saving $30 to $40 a week or $120 to $160 a month. I would hardly call alternative fuels a fad.

The suppliers I have could care less what I do with the oil. Why should they? They are in no way responsible for what I'm doing with it. They actually think it's pretty cool.
As far as getting paid for their WVO even if they did so what? .50c or a dollar a gallon is still less than $3.00 a gallon and there is no dependence on foreign oil.

I appreciate your opinions but I think your dead wrong.

Danny

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It's been around for longer that most people know. I remember this being done in Oregon around 88, 89.

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All kidding aside, I really think the future of alternative fuels is commercial bio-diesel. Assuming the cost of petro fuels continues to rise, BD could actually become cost effective, and become a mainstream product. At that point the engine manufactures would be forced to actually evaluate it for use in their engines (at greater than B5). Once the manufactures endorse it, the public will actually be comfortable using it, and availability will expand. Most folks are not going to put anything in their tank without a piece of paper for the auto manufacturer telling them it's OK. Until then, BD will remain a fringe product.

Regarding WVO and homemade BD, there are a very small number of folks actually using it. IMHO, this is truly a fad. Very few people are going to be willing to to put homemade anything in their tanks. There is just too much risk for too little return. It would take a LOT more than a few $100 per month for most folks to bother with it. In addition, there is just too much risk to the engine. You have no real way of knowing the chemical content of the oil, all you can do is get rid of the water and the big chunks of solids. You just don't know what kind of salts, sugar, and other organics you are running through your engine. You are also guessing at the viscosity of the final product. Personally, I wouldn't put it in anything unless I considered the vehicle to be completely disposable. If I was a broke collage student with an extra $500 car, I might consider it, but probably not.

Look at it this way, I could save much more money by cutting my own firewood for heat, growing my own vegetables, sewing my own clothes, making my own soap, etc. I could even use WVO to heat my house. Most of us don't do any of those things either. Most of us don't even bother cooking our own food or making our own coffee, half the time. Most American aren't even going to drive an extra two blocks to save $.10 per gallon for fuel. The fact is, most people have more money than time and are willing to pay for convenience.

If you consider this a hobby and can live with the risks, fine. But don't kid yourself, the vast majority of Americans are not going to put anything in their tanks that isn't approved by the manufacturer, and isn't available at the corner station (with pay-at-the-pump).

I would agree that the average American is not going to dumpster dive, but it's not a fad if the average American does not do it. It's a niche. Get it straight boys.

And you diesel lovers have way too much faith in the stuff. I love the assumption that the Dino that comes out of a dino pump is all good, and all the same. Some of it is crap, and all of it is extremely nasty stuff with regard to seals, pistons, etc. Aromatics and all the other metals in Dino are not good for your car. Sulfur has high lubricity, but it clogs everything else up (including your lungs). And there is a wide variation in the quality of the fuel. The portion and quality of the barrel cracked for diesel changes all the time.

And did you really think this was pro-WVO forum? When I first started here not long ago compared to most, I was told not even to mention WVO. It has changed alot in 2 years, but the true pirates still roam.