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Help needed with rotten SLS lines?
I noticed some hydraulic fluid on the garage floor under the car and found these lines (in pics) are rotted. The reservoir is still full and the spot on the floor is about 5" in diameter since lastnight. How tough is it to replace these and what else should I do while I'm at it (I was going to replace the accumulators). Does anyone know how much these lines cost? The rot in the photos is all I can find.
Which part numbers will I need? I'm not sure. Russian Part Number Site I've read that it won't destroy anything if I drive with a leak in the sytem. Is this true? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Are your rubber lines bad or the hard? I can't really tell from the pictures nor the description.
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The hard lines at the top of the pic are rotted right after the bracket. I circled the rot in red.
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JB Weld to the rescue!!!!
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I am pretty sure those are fuel lines not hydraulic lines.... They both look like and are in the right place to be fuel lines....
If they were hydraulic lines they would have blown open and leaked out all the fluid in no time being that corroded....that is a very high pressure system.
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The leaking fluid is hydraulic fluid (definitely not diesel). Here is another pic from the other side of the rear. The top circle is the rotted lines, the bottom circle is where they are entering the SLS valve.
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Those lines are a dealer item. I have a vague recollection of a forum member cutting and splicing those lines but the union fittings were hard to find since they are metric. If you search the forum deeply enough, you should find that thread. It shouldn't harm the system to keep driving it with a leak.
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Thanks, I guess I'll call the dealer parts desk tomorrow and see how much$$.
Do you think a hydraulic shop could make new lines?
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I've used epoxy in lots of applications and been very happy with it including on the hot water radiators in my house. The pressures in that system are very high and I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of JB Weld holding up to those pressures unless it were backed up with hose clamps etc. I don't think the effort is worth it.
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Take a look at this thread - maybe send a message to cscmc1. Sounds like he was recently down this road.
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I went though this not that long ago on the silver and blue wagon Dee8go has now- I had ordered the lines with the full intention of replacing the entire pieces (both feed and return were leaking in the exact same spot as yours). the part numbers supercede from 123 to 124 #'s and the 124 lines come with plastic fittings on the ends- basically its not just plug and play, other parts will need to be upgraded too to match up to the new lines, plus the lines come curled up, you have to straighten them out as best as you can then put the bends in place yourself without kinking the lines, its not as easy or fun as it sounds
after messing around for a few hours with the new lines and realizing what else was going to need to be done to make them work, the owner and I decided just to remove the SLS from the car.
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I have to agree not a good idea for use on this particular job. As much as I like JB weld no matter what you use it on the surface needs to be clean and degreased for it to adhere. This would be tough to do on a leaking hydraulic line. Even if you drained the reservoir left over fluid in the tubing would still leak. |
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I'm going to order the stuff for the lines and some accumulators and try to get this done ASAP.
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If you have the time and ability, taking some pictures of the process and fittings might be useful to other members in the future. Do you have a source for the fittings yet?
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