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OK ,so i removed pump yesterday ,marks were align perfectly so conclussion chain never skipped, problem is the cam ... by the way you cant just turn ip 180 degrees when turning it has 4 stages , similar to the camshaft with valves; so after each one it jumps ,theres no smooth movement.
What i did i just align marks -crank was at 24 ,i rotated engine 360 so crank again 24 and cam lobes now pointing up...reinstalled pump....result-0 Engine doesn't start . This morning went back and rotated camshaft 180 degrees , by removing cam towers for #1,#2 cylinder (time 1hr install /reinstall ,compare to 4hrs on IP) , result engine started right away but performance worsened, tried to time IP no luck ,again fuel flows only on exhaust stroke ,at compression stroke 0 , but this time fuel flows when pumping primer pump,no dripping ,now im really confused , im back to were i started with worst results,all suggestions are appreciated. |
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Go put an intrusion engine on tdc, and set the cam 180 off, then crank it, you tell me what will happen And yeah, I am sure about that, seeing as though I have been specializing in Benz for the last 15 years |
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Set to TDC to make sure timing marks are correct, but when installing IP set to 23.5-25 BTDC, depending on how old the chain is. |
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It is pretty basic, I think you are "making it harder" that it actually is. Start over Set to TDC, check the timing marks. Crank on 0, cam marks line up, and lobes are up. Now set engine to your 24 degrees BTDC, remove the IP, reset the IP with the mark on the input shaft, and the mark on the pump itself. Reinstall the pump. Set to full throttle by tying the IP with a string or what-not, and use the hand pump with the drip method, and time by 1 sec drips to the 24. You really don't need to keep rotating the engine, just move the IP and synch to the desired drip time. |
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now she purrs
Ok i guess brake was necessary ,i went back and everything started to work, fuel started dripping at compression stroke (it drips even on exhaust stroke), i set it 24BTDC at 1dpc,she started right up . Why i had a problem i still dont know , but i don't regret 2 days of work as we have saying in Russian " century live....century learn.."
Thanks everyone for their input. |
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There will be no interference with the valves if the camshaft is set 180 degrees off the "correct" position. The valves will open and close on the compression/power strokes instead of the exhaust/intake strokes. The only thing that defines the strokes is the injection event. Without injection, the camshaft can operate the valves in either of two positions..............0 degrees and 180 degrees. |
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You correct theres no interference ,but to turn camshaft you have to remove cam tower just 1st one , on the camshaft rotate spacer with mark 180 degrees and then rotate camshaft -- till align with mark,about 10 minutes of work.Without taking cam towers off impossible to turn camshaft,valves will hit piston.
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Did you say 15 years? |
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