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Old 02-13-2008, 12:37 PM
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WA State proposed engine displacement tax

Get ready to be raped if you live in Washington state. They are proposing and engine displacement tax as well as a tax on co2 emissions per mile. With just the displacement tax alone for my two cars each year it would be $225 for the 300SD and $400 for my 63 T-bird. With the CO2 tax I would get raped again because my SD has the Cali trap ox.

Diesel owners would get unfairly punished as a diesel engine needs a larger displacement to give the same power as a gas engine.

If you live in Washington State contact your state reps and urge them to kill this!!!!

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Old 02-13-2008, 12:57 PM
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I'd be amazed if it actually gets passed...
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:14 PM
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:34 PM
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I guess some "do gooder" heard

about how they do things in Europe.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:32 PM
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lame... stupid laws and stuff
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:33 PM
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But in parts of Europe, don't you also get a tax credit for diesels?



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Old 02-13-2008, 03:35 PM
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It might not pass "this time"; but I bet it will not go away either. Im am thinking the state wants to qualify for some sort of Federal money if it dose something about reducing certain emissions. I is easier to gouge the regular citizen than some big Industry that can afford the Lawyers.
I hope it gets more people involved enough to vote out the bills sponsers.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:40 PM
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But in parts of Europe, don't you also get a tax credit for diesels?

No. Not today but several years ago, in the early 90s.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:11 PM
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I don't want to know what it will cost for my 6.9L F250.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:35 PM
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Another reason it would suck to live in the NW.
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What are the other reasons?

Funny, I've been in the NW for 28 years and can't think of one reason why it sucks to live here. I'd like to see your list.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:26 AM
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Here is my letter to Sen. Maria Cantwell:

Ms. Cantwell

I have recently become aware of Senate bill 6900 relating to the tax of vehicles based on engine displacement. As a Civil Engineer, and husband of a Washington State Department of Transportation employee I am aware of how important funding for the State’s roadways is, but I believe that the State’s roadways are receiving adequate funding through the 2003 “nickel” funding package and the 2005 transportation tax package. Together these funding packages have or will fund 432 projects over a span of 18 years.

As an automotive hobbyist I own several older vehicles which are rarely driven, but would cost me an additional $1075 to register under the proposed bill. If and when the time comes where the current tax packages are not adequate to fund the states transportation system, I propose that another “use” based tax (such as a mileage or fuel tax) is enacted, rather than a “blind” tax such as the proposed displacement tax which needlessly penalizes vehicle owners with no respect to the amount of use or roadway wear that the vehicles produce.

Thank you for your time.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:09 PM
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bgkast,

Thats a washington state proposed law, not a federal one.

Sorry I should have made that more clear
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:52 PM
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It was clear that it was from the State. I brought up the word Federal because money hungry States sometimes cater to the Fed. Gov. to get funds from them. I was speculating that this might be one of the motivations. Fed wants emissions reduced and will give $$$ if a state can do it; someone in the Stat Gov. thinks we can reduce emissions by having cars with smaller engines; some one thinks how can we get people to drive cars with smaller engines; we can tax the engine size (Good idea it won't effect us as we drive government provided cars).
Please see that these folks that support the good idea do not get re-elected!!!
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Funny, I've been in the NW for 28 years and can't think of one reason why it sucks to live here. I'd like to see your list.
I'd like to see the list too.

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