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Old 11-14-2008, 11:49 AM
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I don't think mpg is as related to rpm on a diesel as it is on a car. It takes a set amount of POWER to move the car x distance at y speed based on the rolling resistance of the tires and aeordynamic drag. That power requirement when factored with the efficiency of the engine gives fuel economy.
Increased resistance in any way (dragging brakes, added roof racks, who knows what else) will decrease economy, so will decreasing the efficiency of the engine with things like bad thermostats.
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:13 PM
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I don't think mpg is as related to rpm on a diesel as it is on a car. It takes a set amount of POWER to move the car x distance at y speed based on the rolling resistance of the tires and aeordynamic drag. That power requirement when factored with the efficiency of the engine gives fuel economy.
Increased resistance in any way (dragging brakes, added roof racks, who knows what else) will decrease economy, so will decreasing the efficiency of the engine with things like bad thermostats.
The efficiency on internal combustion engines is highly depended RPM. If to low the efficiency is bad and if to high the efficiency is bad. I commute 35 miles each way and a speed on 75-80 MPG. The engine refs 3000-3500 RPM.

Next week I will try my MPG going no faster than 65...we will see.

Still hoping to find a 2.88 axle ....would a 300SD axle fit?
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:59 PM
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The efficiency on internal combustion engines is highly depended RPM. If to low the efficiency is bad and if to high the efficiency is bad. I commute 35 miles each way and a speed on 75-80 MPG. The engine refs 3000-3500 RPM.

Next week I will try my MPG going no faster than 65...we will see.

Still hoping to find a 2.88 axle ....would a 300SD axle fit?
not sure this works out, at least not for me. I dropped my RPMs by a whole gear and I gained 2-3 city(so far) 5 hwy(estimated due to past difference, I will know when the snowbirds go home) MPG going from the 3.07 to the 2.47.

the 2.47 I have is from a w126, you just have to flip the rear mount. also, when you pull the rear make sure you keep the axles shims as they are sized to the diff.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:32 PM
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you need to calculate your effective gear ratio. if it actually reduces rpm 10% then the actual mileage is 22. likewise the speed will be higher so if it reads 60 the actuak would be 66.

the 81 is na so the diff would be 346.
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Look in the resources tab above and click on DIY articles. A good write up on R&R a Diff.

See Post #2 above for 2:88.

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Old 11-14-2008, 10:57 PM
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the 81 is na so the diff would be 346.
For the 300D/CD, yes. The 300TD was the first non-300SD turbo in 81 so it should be 3.07.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:00 AM
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Actually, according to my mb illustrated buyer's guide the cd was turob in '81 too. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mid year change over.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:21 AM
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the cd was turob in '81 too.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:57 AM
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Actually, according to my mb illustrated buyer's guide the cd was turob in '81 too. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mid year change over.
There were no 1981 model year 300CD turbo diesels. All 1981 model year 300CDs were normally aspirated. Around 8/81 or 9/81, production switched from non turbo to turbo 300CDs, and while they made a few hundred 300CD turbo diesels in late 81, they were all 1982 model year vehicles.
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Old 11-15-2008, 08:06 PM
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not sure this works out, at least not for me. I dropped my RPMs by a whole gear and I gained 2-3 city(so far) 5 hwy(estimated due to past difference, I will know when the snowbirds go home) MPG going from the 3.07 to the 2.47.

the 2.47 I have is from a w126, you just have to flip the rear mount. also, when you pull the rear make sure you keep the axles shims as they are sized to the diff.
On your picture it looks like you have bigger wheels as well. How does the 2.47 drive and from which car did you get the axle???
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On your picture it ook like you have bigger wheels as well. How does the 2.47 drive and out of which car did you get the axle???

I LOVE the 2.47. The only drawback is my speedo is off by 40%. also the wheels are large but the tire OD is actually smaller so that makes the 2.47 a little higher. I have a manual trans so an auto probably wouldnt notice the 1st gear takoff sluggishness I have. once I get to 5MPH first is like 2nd gear used to be and 4th is like an overdrive

I was watching my speedo closely with regard to RPM, this is what I have. At 45MPH (corrected to 63MPH) I turn 2200RPM. I think I have mis stated this in the past because I was guessing but this is the right numbers verified today. 4th has all the power I need to climb hills and will accellerate just fine. If I need to pass 3rd is the same as 4th used to be

I took the 2.47 from a 380 or 500 sel I cant remember.
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:31 PM
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I LOVE the 2.47. The only drawback is my speedo is off by 40%. also the wheels are large but the tire OD is actually smaller so that makes the 2.47 a little higher. I have a manual trans so an auto probably wouldnt notice the 1st gear takoff sluggishness I have. once I get to 5MPH first is like 2nd gear used to be and 4th is like an overdrive

I was watching my speedo closely with regard to RPM, this is what I have. At 45MPH (corrected to 63MPH) I turn 2200RPM. I think I have mis stated this in the past because I was guessing but this is the right numbers verified today. 4th has all the power I need to climb hills and will accellerate just fine. If I need to pass 3rd is the same as 4th used to be

I took the 2.47 from a 380 or 500 sel I cant remember.
Does the flexdisc fit from your car? I know that on gas cars different sizes are used from V8 to I6.
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:34 PM
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Does the flexdisc fit from your car? I know that on gas cars different sizes are used from V8 to I6.

I removed the 3 hole flange from the back of an old transmission I had and used it on the 2.47 from the SEL. I guess you can also use the one from the rear you remove but I wanted to keep mine intact in case I didnt like it or I wanted to put in a five speed
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. The only drawback is my speedo is off by 40%.
Is there anyway to correct that?
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Is there anyway to correct that?

I am looking at correction devices, unfortunately there is no cheap solution. there are mechanical ones with set ratios around $80, but Im not sure they will screw on and there are electrical drivers that are much more expensive but infinitely adjustable and again not sure if the threads are the same. I do the calc in my head for free
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