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OK
I edited post #1. to include the most common MB diesel bypass valves, and their engine application.
If you are in doubt, call with your VIN#, year, make, and model.
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I am looking for a local spring supplier at this moment.
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Might be good to get a tech spec of the spring. That way any spring supplier could provide one.
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I'm looking to source that part in Canada for my 1992 300D 2,5 Turbo.
It has all the symptoms of fuel starvation while having good flow and pressure from the charging pump. Not measured, but I removed all 5 injectors recently and reprimed them all quickly and easy by just cracking one injector open... As for the symptoms themselves: the car has a sudden loss of power at about 2800rpm. (Bear in mind I have converted the car to a pressure type wastegate as described by GSXR). Because I thought it was the wastegate openning all the time, I intentionnally blocked the wastegate pressure actuator feed line so it would not open anymore (knowing to be carefull not to overboost). Now I got pressure surges to 18-19psi at 3000rpm BUT yet no power! Then I came back here because I suspected fuel starvation. Checked everything from fuel tank to fuel filter (which is quite recent). Fueled to the same gas station as always, no problem there. And here I find about that fuel checkvalve. I'll post my results for sure when I'm done with that checkvalve. Thanks,
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OM 601,2,3 Overflow Valve
Mercedes part # 601 070 01 46
Bosch part #1 469 990 351 Friendly,not so Local, Bosch Diesel Service Center Says: Valve OBSOLETED by Robert Bosch Gmbh August 2002 Suggestion from him: ("If it were Mine") VE type Pumps have the same Fuel Pressure AND their overflow valve(s) are simply a Orifice (Venturi) WITH a Teenie ,Tiny screen filter... Bosch part# 1 463 456 303 So, the only draw back to substituting the VE overflow for the M type would be NO Bio"D" above 20% AND Certainly No WVO. (Trash in the fuel would clog the tiny screen.) On the positive side the VE type Overflow Valve is only $15.00 USD (When ordered as Bosch part# from Bosch)
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They are availible here. Post# 1. Diesel fuel return valve/banjo bolt, back of injection pump by engine block, at nylon return line going to fuel filter housing. MB# 6010700146 Application list: OM601. 911, 912, 921, 940, 941 OM602. 911, 912, 930, 931, 938, 939, 940, 941, 942, 946, 947, 948, 961, 962, 990, 991, 993 OM603. 912, 913, 931, 960, 961, 962, 963, 970, 971, 972 OM616.963 OM661.911 OM662.911 NOTE: You should replace the banjo bolt/valve seal rings at this time. Two of the following Seal ring MB# 007603012405 . Last edited by whunter; 10-02-2012 at 03:44 PM. |
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Thanks, Hunter
"Bosch dropped them because MB contracted another company to make them cheaper."
I'm beginning to get this Pre-deja Vu feeling that A Lot of MB parts will end up in that same "Bin". Ya Know,Ladies and Gents, it might behoove us to acquire at least one of each part "You really can't do without"... I'm beginning to see a 10 year Pattern (After 10 years DB "Drops" the parts) almost as if Mercedes were a US company... Let us not forget,anybody only "Has" to supply parts in the US for "Only" Ten Years after model cessation... AND unfortunately DB has taken that "Cheap" way out... A once Proud,Meticulous engineering company that led the world in innovation and customer service has been degraded to "Untermenschen",by Bean counters.
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AMC ![]() Hunter did you ever find a spring supplier that can identify or come close to the old type spring ? Theres a spring place in san antonio I was going to check with but work and life keep getting in the way. Its ace spring on brooklyn st if anyone around here has time and can get there before me. They have a whole wall full of springs. They specialize in auto leaf springs . Go figure.
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I didn't know about this. Thanks for sharing, oh Great Hunter!
I suspect I might have this issue with my 240D. It seems a bit lethargic on these mountains, and the exhaust is never very sooty. Floored in 2nd gear going up these hills around here it should be leaving a cloud of black soot, but it doesn't. Needs more soot.....discourages tailgaters!!
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MD dealer told me they can get the part, but they have to order it from Germany, will take 10 days to get and costs 84,60$ (Canadian). Quote:
But Peachparts will not ship to Canada, right? At least that's what I recall from last time when I needed the vacuum pump. Thanks,
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Shipping to canada
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In fact it did improve a bit, but when I really need power like under acceleration in motorway access ramp, the car stalls... Primer pump will be rebuilt this week. Will report on the results. Bye,
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It did restore performance and car now works perfectly. I therefore had a combination of 2 problems related to overflow valve and primer pump (which I initially thought it was all right). But I must also say, to be honnest, that I had an issue related with my WVO system. I had not initially plug the return banjo bolt in the fuel filter housing... I'll discuss that a little later in the proper section. Many thanks,
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