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Old 05-23-2009, 11:50 PM
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I am doing my front rotors and pads now as well. I however did NOT buy the bearing seals. Should I stop now before I do irreversible "progress"? I DO have the bearings however. SKF from NAPA. Could I easily pick up the seals at a local auto parts store should I absolutely need them?

I was hoping to just do the rotors and pads for now and worry about the bearings later on when I have more time, money, and experience.
If it did not look like Grease was leaking out of the old Seals to begin with and they were not damaged or otherwise disturbed they most often can be reused.
However, if you live some where that is extremely dusty or you have a good chance of driving through water and submerging you wheels above the Axle level it might be better to replace the seals.

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if you are repacking the bearings- which may not be a bad idea while you have the hub off,(that's how I do it) you will need to remove the seal- and therefor ruin it.

if you are just going to change rotors, you probably can get away w/out replacing the seal, as long as you are careful removing and replacing the hub from the spindle.

FWIW- I order extra front wheel seals to keep on hand for these situations- they are 1/4 the cost of local sources to add to an existing online parts order.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:02 AM
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if you are repacking the bearings- which may not be a bad idea while you have the hub off,(that's how I do it) you will need to remove the seal- and therefor ruin it.

if you are just going to change rotors, you probably can get away w/out replacing the seal, as long as you are careful removing and replacing the hub from the spindle.

FWIW- I order extra front wheel seals to keep on hand for these situations- they are 1/4 the cost of local sources to add to an existing online parts order.

Thanks guys. I'll just see if I can get the seals at a local parts store, if they have them in stock.

I'm also concerned about mixing wheel bearing grease if I do repack. I bought this:




Would this be sufficient to repack the bearings with or at least "throw a little extra on?" Or should I save it for new bearings, OR simply wait till the dealership opens next time to get some MB High Temp Anti-Friction Grease?
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Would this be sufficient to repack the bearings with or at least "throw a little extra on?" Or should I save it for new bearings, OR simply wait till the dealership opens next time to get some MB High Temp Anti-Friction Grease?
You need to remove all the existing grease, especially since you cannot determine its type.

There is absolutely nothing special about MB wheel gearings that would dictate the need for "MB" grease.
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if you are just going to change rotors, you probably can get away w/out replacing the seal, as long as you are careful removing and replacing the hub from the spindle.
To pull the hardware down to this level and ignore repacking of the inner bearing is just about the most foolish thing a person can do. Some of these bearings are rotating on the original factory grease because of this type of approach.

The cost of a seal is $4.00 and the grease is $8.00. Just do it.
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I'm also concerned about mixing wheel bearing grease if I do repack.
The proper procedure requires you to thoroughly clean the bearings with mineral spirits or acetone. All traces of the old grease need to be eliminated.

Then, you start with clean hands and pack as much grease as you possibly can between the rollers. It takes about 6-7 minutes per bearing to properly accomplish this...........a process that is usually foreshortened by most mechanics. Additional grease is put into the raceway and hub for insurance, but the critical point of the grease is only where the rollers contact the raceways.
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:18 AM
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the bearings do not need to be touched at all to replace the rotors.
That might depend on which end of the car one is working on. Replacing the front rotors without touching a bearing would be quite a feat.
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you do not NEED to remove the seal and inner bearing from the hub to replace the rotors. you do need to remove the hub, and reset the bearing play, etc...so I guess you do need to touch that outer one....

but as I said earlier, and most anyone that has done the job before knows, you should repack the bearings at this point. the only exception would be if you had freshly packed bearings, and ruined a rotor shortly thereafter. then MAY-be one could get away without doing a full repack. ( I would clean and pack them , but some peeps live on the edge...)

but I also stated earlier- for the peeps whom do not always read every post- it is a good idea to keep extra seals on hand, so that anytime you get to this point, there is no reason NOT to clean and pack the bearings.


And as BC stated- all old grease should be removed, bearings inspected for discoloration and wear, then repacked with good DISC brake rated grease.

most flaps will have the seal on hand. and the bearing sets are #3 outer and #5 inner.
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:34 AM
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I just tighten the rotor runnout until the wheel is hard to turn, then I back it off 1/3 a turn or so. Has worked for me on the last several times I've done that job.
so I dont have the dial gizmo ,by "hard to turn" ,
like almost cant turn or wont turn and then back out 1/3 ???
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Use the dial indicator, you'll never get it proper without. Been there, done that.

I use a bearing packing tool by LISLIE I believe is the brand, works great.

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