Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 06-08-2009, 02:20 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Walnut Creek, CA & 1,150 miles S of Key West
Posts: 4,874
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselAddict View Post
If I recall correctly from reading info outside this forum, the 2007 model was not urea injected, but 2008 and newer are, but I could be wrong.
Not certain what part of this is misunderstood....No production W211 BlueTec made for the USA has been, nor ever will be, urea injected. Period.

W212's in 2010 will be the first E's that receive AdBlue in the US.

__________________
Terry Allison
N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama

09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA)
09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.)
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 06-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Reno/Sparks, NV
Posts: 3,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMAllison View Post
Not certain what part of this is misunderstood....No production W211 BlueTec made for the USA has been, nor ever will be, urea injected. Period.

W212's in 2010 will be the first E's that receive AdBlue in the US.
We understood you perfectly. We just question what you said. It appears you are wrong. Check out these two links which state the E-class urea injection started with the 2008 model, just like I said.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0806_mercedes_benz_e320_bluetec_first_test/index.html
http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/10/01/review-2007-mercedes-e320-bluetec-blue-is-the-new-green/

If you have some links that tell otherwise, I'd like to see them.
__________________
2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06-08-2009, 08:09 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Walnut Creek, CA & 1,150 miles S of Key West
Posts: 4,874
Here's a thought for the doubters......Go to the source.....Click on the engine link. Read it. Then read the asterisk (*) text below that states it is not 50 state emission legal. Why is that?

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/#/vehiclesMenu/explorePerformance/?vc=E&vmf=E320BTC&yr=2009

Now do the same for the GL and note it is 50 state legal AND includes the statement that it uses AdBlue tech......

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/#/vehiclesMenu/explorePerformance/?vc=GL&vmf=GL320BTC&yr=2009

You've found two older articles from a time that MB was "planning" to introduce AdBlue to the E class. I'm certain you can find many more which will be equally incorrect and that won't change the fact that the W211 in the USA will never be imported with a BlueTec engine utilizing AdBlue for teh obvious reason that it is out of production after 09.

*edit*
the astericked text on MBUSA's webpage apparently is not part of the page when linked, nor is it able to be copied and pasted. You'll have to go there and navigate to each page to view the differences in text.
__________________
Terry Allison
N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama

09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA)
09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.)
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06-08-2009, 08:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Reno/Sparks, NV
Posts: 3,063
I tried to get to the source, but Mozilla doesn't display the MBUSA site correctly. I can't view your links either. But I believe you now and it agrees with what I found on fueleconomy.gov. There I see the 2008 E-class Bluetec's emissions are rated as Bin 8. Yeah, that's not good enough for CA. Thanks, I learned something today.
__________________
2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 06-08-2009, 09:22 PM
DeliveryValve's Avatar
Chairman of my Benz
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 4,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMAllison View Post
......
Now do the same for the GL and note it is 50 state legal AND includes the statement that it uses AdBlue tech......

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/#/vehiclesMenu/explorePerformance/?vc=GL&vmf=GL320BTC&yr=2009
.....
This is an interesting marketing statement from the link on the MBUSA website.

Quote:
BlueTEC Clean Diesel

Our new, state-of-the-art BlueTEC technology isn't just about assertive horsepower, massive torque or impressive 0-to-60 speeds. It's about all that - and performance of another kind. This breakthrough in diesel can take our SUVs over 600 miles on a single tank of fuel.(1) That's farther than Los Angeles to Salt Lake City and better fuel economy than some hybrids. As inventors of the diesel engine, we've now reinvented it without the noise, odor and emissions of old. And by injecting a solution known as AdBlueŽ into the exhaust, BlueTEC can reduce smog-causing NOx to its harmless nitrogen and water essentials.(2) Think 8-cylinder power and 4-cylinder efficiency in a landmark 6-cylinder engine. So, if you want to go green, go Blue. Think BlueTEC.

Can they really say that? I'm seeing false advertising, unless someone proves me wrong.


.






.
Attached Thumbnails
'06 I6 CDI vs '07 V6 CDI-Which Is Better?-bluetechadvertising_1.jpg  
__________________
1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System



Last edited by DeliveryValve; 06-08-2009 at 10:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 06-08-2009, 11:41 PM
bustedbenz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Valle Crucis, NC
Posts: 2,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeliveryValve View Post
This is an interesting marketing statement from the link on the MBUSA website.




Can they really say that? I'm seeing false advertising, unless someone proves me wrong.


.






.
If I were a Mercedes lawyer, I'd say that it was a misinterpretation of the statement. I'd say that I didn't mean I invented the diesel engine, I just invented "the diesel engine that we're talking about at the moment."

MB was also the first one to use a diesel in a passenger car, IIRC.
__________________


~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 06-09-2009, 12:02 AM
Skid Row Joe's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: #KeepingAmericaGreat!
Posts: 7,071
Quote:
Originally Posted by bustedbenz View Post
If I were a Mercedes lawyer, I'd say that it was a misinterpretation of the statement. I'd say that I didn't mean I invented the diesel engine, I just invented "the diesel engine that we're talking about at the moment."

MB was also the first one to use a diesel in a passenger car, IIRC.
I disagree. Your "Mercedes lawyer," wouldn't have a prayer.

MB's statement is crystal clear. They either did, or didn't, invent the diesel engine.

They are wide-open for a lawsuit and it's associated judgement, if in fact they did not "invent the diesel engine."

Same category as Algore's personal claim to; "inventing the Internet." LMAO! -Which BTW, he did not "invent the Internet," if there is anyone left on Earth who still believes gore.......
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 06-09-2009, 01:09 PM
DeliveryValve's Avatar
Chairman of my Benz
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 4,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe View Post
....
MB's statement is crystal clear. They either did, or didn't, invent the diesel engine.

They are wide-open for a lawsuit and it's associated judgement, if in fact they did not "invent the diesel engine."
..........
Agreed.

How about this idea. We should all join in a class action lawsuit that if we prevail , they can pay us in free BlueTEC vehicles. J.K.

__________________
1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System


Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page