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Old 12-30-2010, 12:32 AM
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I recently changed the rear subframe ( rust) from my 240D manual to a subframe from a 300D. I left the 300D differential ( 1983) in place in the hope to get a better fuel mileage.
In my opinion the car is a lot more fun to drive. Yes here in the hills of PA I have to get back to second gear sometimes but anticipating traffic and road makes it a lot more fun. In the city the longer gears are much better.
Mileage has gone up from 28-30mpg to 34-35mpg, kind of amazing because I almost drive full throttle all the time.

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Old 12-30-2010, 10:10 AM
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Still searching for the 2.47:1 diff, ...

You've been asking this question for a while. Kind of shocked you haven't found one yet. They frequently show up in my local yards.


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I have the 2.47:1 diff..........which I temporarily considered...........but will probably never install it. I'd trade it for another 2.88 if you find one.

You'd like this diff..........it's LSD.
That's an ultra rare unit that will fit a first gen w126. Where or what year/model did you pull this.



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That's an ultra rare unit that will fit a first gen w126. Where or what year/model did you pull this.



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I believe it came from an '85 500 SEL, but I'm not certain. I didn't pull it........it was sent to me.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:41 AM
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Didn't the 81-85 500 series w126's use the 2.47 diffs? There is at least one at the winston pick and pull. I had my eyes on its rear subframe.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:07 AM
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Didn't the 81-85 500 series w126's use the 2.47 diffs? There is at least one at the winston pick and pull. I had my eyes on its rear subframe.
Yes they did. That is what ours is from. A 1984 500SEL Euro. It had 331k on it.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:17 AM
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Yes they did. That is what ours is from. A 1984 500SEL Euro. It had 331k on it.
with all the talk about rebooting half shafts around here, I at least need to pull that diff and shafts. Then send the shafts to John for rebooting.
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:58 PM
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You've been asking this question for a while. Kind of shocked you haven't found one yet. They frequently show up in my local yards..
No 2.47's here....
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Old 12-30-2010, 01:00 PM
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126 Differential into W116 Chassis Question:

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with all the talk about rebooting half shafts around here, I at least need to pull that diff and shafts. Then send the shafts to John for rebooting.
Now, am I to understand that you 'reboot' the half shafts using the outboard section of the 116 shaft/outer CV joint and the inboard 126 CV Joint when adapting this 126 differential into a 116????
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:21 PM
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I pulled one 2:47 from a 85 380SE.

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3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

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Old 12-30-2010, 03:06 PM
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I recently changed the rear subframe ( rust) from my 240D manual to a subframe from a 300D. I left the 300D differential ( 1983) in place in the hope to get a better fuel mileage.
In my opinion the car is a lot more fun to drive. Yes here in the hills of PA I have to get back to second gear sometimes but anticipating traffic and road makes it a lot more fun. In the city the longer gears are much better.
Mileage has gone up from 28-30mpg to 34-35mpg, kind of amazing because I almost drive full throttle all the time.

Later J
You went from a 3.69 differential to a 3.07. This means your speedometer and odometer are now off by a fairly significant amount. Which is why your mileage "improved" (in reality it likely has not). As your speedo and odo are now reading several mph slow.
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Old 12-30-2010, 03:19 PM
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I believe it came from an '85 500 SEL, but I'm not certain. I didn't pull it........it was sent to me.
Interesting. If you get a chance, can you snap a pic of the internals. I have never seen a First Gen 2.47 LSD diff before... even in pictures.
I've seen 2.24, 2.65, 3.27 and second Gen 2.47 LSD in person.


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No 2.47's here....
That is surprising, since the 2.47 is easily found on 1981-1985 gasser w126's you should have a favorable probability of finding one as opposed to the one year only 1985 2.88. I probably seen a dozen or so 2.47's in the past year and zero 2.88's in my local yards.




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Old 12-30-2010, 04:08 PM
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with all the talk about rebooting half shafts around here, I at least need to pull that diff and shafts. Then send the shafts to John for rebooting.
That is what prompted our entire swap. We found the good condition axles/diff in the euro at the junk yard....bought the whole thing as one giant piece for about $110. We took it all apart, rebooted the axles from the 500, and trashed all the original stuff from the car (axles clunking & grinding, diff had a TON of play and metal shavings coming out of it) We swapped in the 2.47 diff without much trouble, and the axles it came with minus the balancing weights. So far so good....it has covered about 8-10k so far. The diff whines a bit....but it is generally smooth, and the axles have been perfect. The inside of the diff looked fine when we checked it, no metal shavings or signs of wear, and the oil was new, so the owner must have taken good care of the car.
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:19 PM
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I've got a very interesting situation with the SD.

Firstly, all pods work and the system holds vacuum (bad pods replaced several years ago and retested recently).

With system in economy mode, center vents are open. However, center vents are open with center vent pod closed. If I apply vacuum to the center vent pod, the outlet air temperature rises noticeably from stone cold to lukewarm, so I know the door is operating.

The question is how the air is getting to the center vents with the pod closed?
Hmmmmm......That is a good question indeed. let me get my books out and research this for you!!!!!
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:57 PM
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Here is a list of what Differentials came with the various chassis models.

Well - I have found the MB diesel "easter egg"

Charlie
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1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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Old 12-31-2010, 12:14 AM
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Excellent!!!!

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