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IP Bottom Plate Oil Leak
Re: W124, 300D, 602.962
Just this weekend I noticed a slow motor oil leak from the bottom of my IP. I have isolated it to the bottom plate, which attaches with 4 or 6 small bolts. EPC shows that there is a seal of some kind (flat or o-ring) that probably is the problem in my case. I haven't located a source for this part yet, which is "#A0049971340 - Seal Ring, Lower". It is # 370 shown below. Simplest fix would be to see if the fasteners are a little loose and try to snug them up a bit. If that does not work I will need to remove the plate and install a new seal. No parts are retained by the plate that I need to watch for I hope? Are the bolts Torx head? Has anyone encountered this problem yet and where can I get the part? Thanks. ![]()
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1993 W124 300D 2.5L Turbo, OM602.962 2000 Chevrolet Cavalier, 2.4L DOHC 2002 Ford Explorer, 4.0L SOHC 2005 Toyota Prius, 1.5L http://www.fuelly.com/sig-us/40601.png Last edited by vstech; 01-13-2011 at 10:33 AM. |
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The bolts are torx head and really difficult to get at,unfortunatly it is a common leak on these old cars on my wagon(603 eng) i had to take the pump off to do the job.The one on my sedan(602 eng) is leaking a little and so is the one on my sons sedan.No parts will fall out but a surprising amount of oil will! The seal was hard and brittle and there is no groove to fit it into it just fits around a raised part of the cover and i think if you do manage to get the cover off without removing the pump you will have to glue the seal to the cover to get it to stay in place while you reassemble. Don
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Thanks for the info Don. Where did you get the new seal? My online sources don't seem to have it...I may have to call my local MB dealer and check with them.
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1993 W124 300D 2.5L Turbo, OM602.962 2000 Chevrolet Cavalier, 2.4L DOHC 2002 Ford Explorer, 4.0L SOHC 2005 Toyota Prius, 1.5L http://www.fuelly.com/sig-us/40601.png |
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If all else fails and you can't get a replacement seal would Permatex black do the job?
http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_makers/auto_permatex_ultra_black_maximum_oil_resistance_rtv_silicone_gasket_maker.htm Who knows it may last forever - it may last for 5 mins???
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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I ordred the Bosch gasket kit from the local Bosch shop, if i remember it was around 30 bucks and pretty much a waste of money.Even if you have to take the pump off you only need the oring for the front of the pump and the one for the cover,the one for the cover is just an oring and not shaped like it shows in the picture you posted which is why you would have to glue it in place.If i remember correctly the side cover gasket was not included so i made one.If you dont have a local MB dealer Peach Parts would be your best bet i guess. Don
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Red Green "This is only temporary,Unless it works!" ![]() 97 E300D 157000 miles 87 300TD ?141k? miles |
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Did you had to remove the IP
I'm having the same problem oil on the side, at bootom and at rear where I believed is the selenoid. I defenelly need to remove the IP but, what do I'm looking for to prevent a catastrophe by messing with the timming. I have a 92 300SD w140 and as soon as get all inf I need I will start the process and post it as I,m working on it. The good thing we have this wonderfull site for advise and parts. please let me know how did it work out for you
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Answer
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![]() Fastlane: SEAL RING, INJECTION PUMP BOTTOM PLATE http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0049971340 .
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IP seals or gaskets?
Hunter I have a 92 300SD can you provide me with the gaskets "O" ring engine, bootom "O" ring, side gasket, and rear selenoid "O" and some tips of the trade and what not to do and if I need any special tools. Thank you Hunter
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This thread may be helpful.
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. ![]() W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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GREAt!!!!!!!!! thanks for the info.
This is excellent thread and will make thing a lot easier. Thank you Ah-kay
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That is a good thread, I agree. The 602's IP only has 4 bolts to remove. I'm pretty sure I can get to them from underneath the car and using a bunch of extensions.
Thanks to Gsxr's website W124performance.com for the picture. ![]()
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1993 W124 300D 2.5L Turbo, OM602.962 2000 Chevrolet Cavalier, 2.4L DOHC 2002 Ford Explorer, 4.0L SOHC 2005 Toyota Prius, 1.5L http://www.fuelly.com/sig-us/40601.png |
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#11. Fastlane: http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0179974148 Seal ring #17. Fastlane: http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0049974540 Seal ring #122. Fastlane: http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0049974640 Gasket #125. only comes with the aluminum cover Fastlane: http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0010743780 Seal ring #149. Fastlane: http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0109975648 Seal ring #207. Fastlane: http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0139978148 Gasket #228. Fastlane: http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=0010744380 .
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thanks
Thank Whunter I will work on it as soon asap
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thanks for this post. Just noticed my bottom plate is leaking. what a mess.
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Part #'s
Hunter, I also need the part #'s for the IP. Going by the drawing at the start of the thread, they would be 370,382,and 424. Also, is the delivery valve o-ring the same size as the shut off valve o-ring ? If not, I need that also. I really appreciate it. Thanks.
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