Refreshing the fuel pump on an OM617 (European spec – non turbo) - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

maclaveau · #31 02-20-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I don't know where you would get them but when I worked in a Fuel Injection Shop there was 2 aftermarket companies that made gasket kits and even hard parts for a variety of Fuel Injection Pumps including Bosch.
SPACO is one of them. (I think US Diesel in Texas sells them but not sure.)
In one of Our Threads I believe I saw a Kit made by FLAG.

The Bosch rep told me that the feed pump kit is still used on many current non-MB applications and it should not be a problem to get them. He also mentioned the IP kit (DKG 128) is valid for all PES 5 MW 55/320 IP's.

I bought one of each as spares. If anyone needs or wants one let me know.

maclaveau · #32 02-20-2013, 06:20 PM

Here are the pictures of the kits:

Stretch · #33 03-01-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ckamila

Got it.

Looks like my pump has a frozen piston. Will not budge in any direction.

Oven?

NCfriend · #34 02-07-2014, 02:10 PM

Stretch, can you easily source a good working or rebuilt lift pump like this one, for the M- injection pump on a euro spec 617 NA?
If so please PM a cost and shipping to USA if possible

Stretch · #35 02-07-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NCfriend

Stretch, can you easily source a good working or rebuilt lift pump like this one, for the M- injection pump on a euro spec 617 NA?
If so please PM a cost and shipping to USA if possible

Like this one?

Rarität Bosch FP/K22M101 Dieselpumpe Diesel Förderpumpe in in Stuttgart | eBay

I can do an advert locally for you to see if I get any takers. They don't come up for sale that often. I don't "do a Charlie" and visit yards as mostly they're a waste of time over here.

Diesel911 · #36 02-07-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NCfriend

Stretch, can you easily source a good working or rebuilt lift pump like this one, for the M- injection pump on a euro spec 617 NA?
If so please PM a cost and shipping to USA if possible

Is your Fuel Injection Pump missing the Fuel Supply/Lift Pump?

If your Fuel Supply/Lift Pump is not missing or damaged there is a rebuild kit for it.

Stretch · #37 02-07-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NCfriend

Stretch, can you easily source a good working or rebuilt lift pump like this one, for the M- injection pump on a euro spec 617 NA?
If so please PM a cost and shipping to USA if possible

I forgot to mention if you look in the non turbo FSM chapter 07-001 there's a list of lift pumps fitted to IPs and engines. Some of the OM616 M pumps look quite similar and probably made it to the US of A

Diesel911 · #38 02-08-2014, 02:15 PM

The M Pump Fuel Supply/Lift Pumps have Disc Valves in side instead of the Solid Plastic sort of T shaped cylindirical Valves with separate Springs that are on the MW Fuel Supply/Lift Pumpumps and the Hand Primer is on a different spot on the Body of the Pump.
I thin the M Pumps Fuel Supply/Lfit Pumps also use only 2 studs or bolts to hold them to the Fuel Injection Pump; the MW uses 3 studs or bolts.

Stretch · #39 02-09-2014, 05:01 AM

Indeed - pictures on the first page show two bolts (slightly bent)

greazzer · #40 09-07-2014, 07:36 PM

Refreshing an older thread ...

Does anyone know where one can buy the kit for the NA ("M") styled pump (it has a fastner on the L&R sides and not 3 (in the shape of a triangle -- sort of). I've looked a bunch and no dice ... Thanks in advance.

Stretch · #41 09-08-2014, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by greazzer

Refreshing an older thread ...

Does anyone know where one can buy the kit for the NA ("M") styled pump (it has a fastner on the L&R sides and not 3 (in the shape of a triangle -- sort of). I've looked a bunch and no dice ... Thanks in advance.

There's a picture of the triangular lift pump here and mention of parts kits in the part number list

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The problem is the Russian EPC ain't so reliable for this kind of thing - too many changes too little information. I'd try the dealer.

If you post up the Bosch part number for the pump I might be able to find something out though

greazzer · #42 09-08-2014, 07:14 AM

Hey Stretch, used to be Army ...

I don't have the triangular mounted pump.

I have just 2 bolts, one on the L&R. I have the "M" pump in a NA engine. Do you have a link for that one? Thanks in advance.

Stretch · #43 09-08-2014, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by greazzer

Hey Stretch, used to be Army ...

I don't have the triangular mounted pump.

I have just 2 bolts, one on the L&R. I have the "M" pump in a NA engine. Do you have a link for that one? Thanks in advance.

Hey greazzer (who hasn't had a name change yet!)

I think I see what you mean about triangular - is it looking down onto it triangular like this?

'Cos if that's the one you need then I can get the dealer here in Holland to dig out a part number for the repair kit. Send me the Bosch P/N.

I'm guessing it is one of those numbers in the link I posted before - but it is better to be safe and check - If the Russian EPC gives more than one option then the chance that it is wrong goes up quite a bit (and I know mathematically speaking the odds can be calculated - but sod's law hasn't been sufficiently formulated in my humble opinion!)

greazzer · #44 09-08-2014, 11:44 AM

No. The lift pumps appear to come in two flavors:

One has three dogears on the back to mount the pump to the IP

Another has two dogears " "

The two dogears is the Euro NA type. That is the one I am looking for.

Stretch · #45 09-08-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by greazzer

No. The lift pumps appear to come in two flavors:

One has three dogears on the back to mount the pump to the IP

Another has two dogears " "

The two dogears is the Euro NA type. That is the one I am looking for.

Sorry - I know it doesn't take much - but now I'm really confused